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08-12-2015 , 07:24 PM
Poker Camp 2015 has ended! Check out the full trip report with photos here - Trip Report 2015

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Come join Coffeeyay, ChicagoRy and Wubblepig for one or both 7 day poker camps in a 9,000 square foot mountain house, fully equipped with exercise room, massage room, steam room, hot tub, fire pit, 8 burner grill, game room with pool table + air hockey, 12 seat theater room and more.

Coffeeyay and Wubblepig will be providing coaching throughout the duration of the camp. Chadders0 will be joining us and coaching for 3-4 days during each camp.

Elliot Roe and Dr. Tricia Cardner will also be doing a 90+ minute teleconference for each group, focusing on improving mental strength both on and off the tables.



When: Camp 1 is September 20-27th and Camp 2 is September 27-October 4th, 2015. Players may attend both camps and will receive a discount for their room charge.

Where: The beautiful Rocky Mountains of Colorado, USA. Keystone is located roughly 90 minutes from Denver. Players will fly into Denver International Airport and be transported to the house.

Included: At least 15 hours of coaching, all breakfast, lunches and snacks, as well as great local beer, wine and spirits/cocktails. Self serve dinners are also included free of charge at the house, for anyone that does not want to go out for food. Laundry machines, cleaning service, transportation to and from the airport, as well as to and from any activities or restaurants/breweries/sights in the area is also free. See below for details on beds/suites.

About the team

Adam "Coffeeyay" Sobolewski is one of the most experienced and well regarded HUSNG and Spin and Go coaches. He's worked with a great deal of high stakes professionals, many as they climbed the ladder and found success. He's coached players such as currrr14, spiritedreal, 307th, torg0th, bubbleoutcas, noxxq, emotionx, yovengo, rocmar87 and spl0dge.

Scott "Wubblepig" Pollington has had great success at the highest levels of Spin and Gos on PokerStars. His results in particular on tables with one "regular" are very impressive. He has been regularly coaching players in Spin and Gos throughout 2015 as well, and is excited to provide insight into this new and profitable format at the camp.

Richard "Chadders0" Chadwick built the original guide to hyper turbo HUSNGs, while beating the $60s and moving into the $100 hyper levels. He now resides as a member of the $500s division, and has had epic battles against the best players in the world, most notably, mrgr33n13 in the $500 and $1,000s. He's made videos and coached players for 4 years now and will be primarily coaching heads up situations in this camp.

Ryan "ChicagoRy" Pachmayer is the founder of HUSNG.com. He will be handling the logistics of the camp, such as meals, drinks, activities, transportation and more. From a rare beer tasting, to cocktail night, hikes, biking, games and more, Ryan will be making sure everyone has a great experience.



Individual Suites (6 available)

Each suite includes its own private bathroom and shower, mini fridge, closet and queen or king size bed. All suites have porches, except for Imagine Suite, which has a larger room area instead.

Discovery Room Beds (5 Available)

Scott "Wubblepig" and Adam "Coffeeyay" will each have a bed in this large shared room. There are three regular bathrooms with sink/toilet and one large bathroom with a shower that the Discovery and Chiron rooms will share. There is a large balcony outside of the Discovery room, with stairs leading to the ground floor side covered porch.

Chiron Room Regular Beds (2 Available)

Upstairs from the Discovery room is the Chiron room, with one large (king) bed, and two regular sized beds available. It also has a private patio facing the back of the house.

Chiron Room King Bed (1 Available)

You can view walk through videos of the suites, shared rooms and other areas of the house HERE.

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For more information or to book now, send me a PM here. Payment options include Skrill, Paypal, Bank Wire and more.

Attendees will receive a full survey when booking, covering three main categories:

1) Poker - What each participant would like to learn, so that the coaches can customize some of their time to learning those topics.

2) Food - What you like to eat, allergies, preferences and more. Meals will be tailor made to the preferences of attendees, as will beverage choices.

3) Leisure - If you want to go on a hike in the mountains, that will be arranged. Want to explore a cave? No problem. Just want to watch a movie or TV show in the theater room or on one of the other TVs? That's cool too. This category will include any alcohol and other enjoyment too.

In addition to the above, we can help you book your flights (finding you the best airfare prices) and handle any other logistics for you.

Last edited by ChicagoRy; 11-02-2015 at 02:04 AM.
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08-12-2015 , 07:25 PM
Hey guys just wanted to give some more details on a few lecture topics I plan to cover in the camp. I'll start with the one I'm most excited about—near game theory optimal (aka GTO) SB and BB ranges for 3-handed play (ie when the button open folds). I've been working on computing them for months now and I'll finally be revealing these ranges at the boot camp. I'll discuss how to make the most money out of understanding them, as well as disusing future ramifications on reg play. These ranges will be a great way for any player to gain edge preflop on even the toughest regs and keep it throughout their career. We'll also be looking at GTO play in heads up scenarios, both preflop and post, and how to use GTO to make the most money you can at the tables. With recent breakthroughs in computing power and calculation software this is where I'm noticing the largest increase in edge in players for work put in.

Another topic I'm very excited about is looking at using HUDs more appropriately. Most of the money in our careers comes from exploitative play, so every tool we can use to exploit players is an essential one to cultivate. With today's advances in strategy it's important to be able to recognize other strategies. To this end we will examine high level ways to connect HUD stats with ranges and strategies. We will also look at common strategies in the metagame and discuss viable counter strategies—we'll also look at how we can build strategies that combine exploitation with balance by using our GTO breakthroughs.

I also plan on doing non-strategy bonus seminars. We'll look at topics away from direct strategy to try to find new avenues for growth. A few tentative examples are: “The history of HUSNGs—a case study for metagame analysis” and “What separates the best from the rest? A panel discussion”. These lighter topics will provide insight into new areas to explore in your work to become the best poker player you can be.

In all of this I plan to craft the specific set of seminars to the individual groups of participants. Your input will be incorporated into the curriculum and our goal will be to discuss new content regardless of your incoming knowledge level—our coaching staff will make sure of it.
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08-15-2015 , 04:43 AM
WoW ..this looks really nice and intersting wish I had the chance to join
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08-15-2015 , 11:46 PM
Whose idea was it to hold the camp in 'the land of the free', where the selection of poker sites needed for practice is too small? Or is it intentional that (assuming that the HUSnG traffic on the WPN has been almost eaten by the jackpots) the HU students will have to play anonymous SnGs at Bovada, focusing on getting and interpreting reads fast instead of HUD stats? Lol. You could set it up in Boquete (Panama) instead if you want specifically mountains, and the funny thing is it that would be cheaper, even with coaches' flights and accomodation included into the student fees.

Last edited by coon74; 08-16-2015 at 12:03 AM.
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08-15-2015 , 11:48 PM
Nobody cares where it is hosted. The camp is meant to be about improvement, not grinding.
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08-16-2015 , 02:54 AM
Looks very exciting, good luck guys
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08-16-2015 , 09:45 AM
See that you edited your message, coon74. I think you do have a valid point with regard to location as in costs, because this seems quite pricey. You not only pay the $3k+ minimum for attendance, but also lose the opportunity to grind during that time.
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08-16-2015 , 12:16 PM
Would love to join such a camp. Sadly, getting a visa for US takes a lot of time. Please consider organizing something like this in Europe soon. There's tons of magnificent spots like Keystone over here also. Would insta-join !

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08-16-2015 , 04:58 PM
Right, the toughness of the US visa policy is also a big concern; Latin American countries give visa-free access to many developed nations (the Schengen area requires visas e.g. from CIS nationals), that's why they came to my mind.

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Nobody cares where it is hosted. The camp is meant to be about improvement, not grinding.
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See that you edited your message, coon74. I think you do have a valid point with regard to location as in costs, because this seems quite pricey. You not only pay the $3k+ minimum for attendance, but also lose the opportunity to grind during that time.
My main concern was not about the cost, but about students' ability to internalise the learnt material by playing (I don't mean hardcore grind, just a bit of play). I think that theoretical knowledge gets forgotten too fast if I don't play a session on the day when I acquire it, where I could see how to apply the coach's advice in concrete spots.

But OK, it doesn't really matter where to play during that week because the immediate monetary gain from playing at a ROW site instead of a US one would be too small in comparison with the overall value of the coaching and its future effect.
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08-16-2015 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by coon74
Whose idea was it to hold the camp in 'the land of the free', where the selection of poker sites needed for practice is too small? Or is it intentional that (assuming that the HUSnG traffic on the WPN has been almost eaten by the jackpots) the HU students will have to play anonymous SnGs at Bovada, focusing on getting and interpreting reads fast instead of HUD stats? Lol. You could set it up in Boquete (Panama) instead if you want specifically mountains, and the funny thing is it that would be cheaper, even with coaches' flights and accomodation included into the student fees.
Panama and other Latin American countries might be cheaper, but we hosted this first camp closer to our homes (we live 90 minutes from here) for several reasons:

- We know the area very well. I've been to hiking trails, biking trails, mountain towns, caves and climbing areas all over this area. I've been to restaurants, breweries, and so on.

- We have help here (Coffeeyay has an assistant, our wives will certainly help out and we have a network of friends/professionals that is advantageous).

- We're familiar with the laws, not only on the contract we signed when leasing this house for 14 days, but also for how people behave in this country. I don't have to worry about weird alcohol laws here impacting our private camp. I don't have to worry about a camp member getting arrested in a 3rd world country (or held in a jail in any country) for trying to buy a joint off someone on the street (bc marijuana is legal here).

All of that stuff would be greatly impacted in a spot outside of Colorado, let alone the USA.

That doesn't mean that camp 2 might not happen some place else, it just means for camp 1, we would rather eliminate having to deal with so many big (possibly devastating) variables and we can do that here.

It would probably also cost at least as much in Panama. Flights for 4-5 individuals helping with this camp, chef, tour guides, market rate transportation and booking a big house like this through a US based owner or the cost of an attorney to write a contract that would hold up in the event the owner just cancelled on us last minute...

There's a lot of risk unless you do things properly with something like this, and we can do that for what may even be a more affordable price here than in Panama. I'm totally comfortable visiting places like Panama or Colombia or Brazil myself, but to be responsible for the enjoyment and value of 15-30 paying customers for 2 weeks takes a great deal of care to properly do and we were only comfortable doing the first poker camp here.

Future locations could certainly include Central/South America or Europe.
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08-16-2015 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by coon74
My main concern was not about the cost, but about students' ability to internalise the learnt material by playing (I don't mean hardcore grind, just a bit of play). I think that theoretical knowledge gets forgotten too fast if I don't play a session on the day when I acquire it, where I could see how to apply the coach's advice in concrete spots.

But OK, it doesn't really matter where to play during that week because the immediate monetary gain from playing at a ROW site instead of a US one would be too small in comparison with the overall value of the coaching and its future effect.
Absolutely. Players will play on WPN or Bovada if they want (WPN is fine for most stakes to get some volume in), but really the value is in getting a lot of valuable coaching for 1-2 weeks, meeting and connecting with other players and the coaches for 1-2 weeks all while enjoying yourself in a beautiful setting with some great things to do.
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08-16-2015 , 10:32 PM
+1 aliku
Do Europe!
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08-16-2015 , 10:34 PM
idk if i can commit without pics of aforementioned wives
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08-19-2015 , 02:25 AM
Really cool idea, I would snap go if it is held in Las Vegas next time around
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08-19-2015 , 10:18 AM
+1 on pics of wifes.
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08-19-2015 , 09:03 PM
The cost is the room plus sessions or the price of the room is everything for the week? Thx maintain bike hire etc can be sorted to?

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08-20-2015 , 12:06 PM
The cost ($1900, 2300 or $3300 for the week) includes the room/bed, transportation to and from the airport, transportation to any activities/dinners/leisure, breakfast, lunch and snacks every day (self serve dinners if you don't want to eat out ever), cleaning, premium drinks (beer, wine and/or cocktails/spirits) while at the house and ~15 hours of coaching.

It doesn't include mountain bike rental, though I have a 2nd mountain bike, so depending on how many people are interested that may be free for you.

If we do some downhill mountain biking at the ski resort (you go up in the ski lift, then down the ski slopes in the mountain bike), we should probably rent full suspension bikes and legit body armor though. I'd love to do that if anyone is interested, I hear it's a blast.
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08-20-2015 , 12:52 PM
Great idea, good luck with it

In my experience it is a nice experience to improve and also meet other poker players and have fun.
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08-20-2015 , 01:44 PM
Hi Guys

I'll be running a mindset seminar for both groups via teleconference in the theater room.

It will be a 1hour seminar and then 30mins of Q&A. I'll be discussing my thoughts on the optimal mindset for poker and teaching techniques play in the zone more often.

Look forward to talking with you then

Elliot

(Click on my coaching listing for details about me and my process)

Last edited by ChicagoRy; 08-20-2015 at 04:37 PM. Reason: added link
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08-22-2015 , 02:17 AM
Here's a strategy video by Scott at the $100 Spin and Gos on Stars.



Also, here are a couple graphs of scott.

EV lifetime spins (All Stakes)



EV lifetime spins ($60s and $100s only)


Last edited by ChicagoRy; 08-22-2015 at 09:12 PM.
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08-25-2015 , 02:28 AM
Only about 4 weeks away, really looking forward to it! It's about 50% capacity on the camps so far.

A few pics of the area where the camp takes place...







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08-29-2015 , 06:12 PM
Activity/Food/Info emails will go out shortly to everyone who is paid. We still have some slots left if anyone is interested.

Some of the nearby activities you can look at:

3 minutes away - Mountain biking down the ski slopes at Keystone (pictured below)



5 minutes away - Boat and kayak rentals on Dillon Resevoir

14 minutes away - Backcountry Brewery offers good local beer and food options such as pizzas and sandwiches.

18 minutes away - Breckenridge Rec Center - Includes rock climbing facility and much more.

35 minutes away - Dram Apothecary - Excellent cocktails and locally made bitters in an old semi ghost mining town.

70 minutes away - Black Hawk, Colorado (Pictured below) - Multiple casinos with various live poker games being spread.



In addition, Keystone resort is 2-3 minutes away, downtown Dillon is 5 minutes away, Silverthorne is 9 minutes away, downtown Frisco is 14 minutes away, downtown Breckenridge is 20 minutes away.

We have a 15-20 deep restaurant list as well that is being finalized.
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08-30-2015 , 07:50 PM
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3 minutes away - Mountain biking down the ski slopes at Keystone (pictured below)

someone is gonna eat **** trying that lol
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08-31-2015 , 05:15 AM
can't wait to break my spine and/or face again... gonna give an additional 3 hours coaching to whoever drags me to ER
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08-31-2015 , 01:19 PM
I'll bring the rope to pull you out to safety.
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