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10-14-2013 , 05:15 PM

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centurion

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 179

Let's say we are against an aggro player who c/r a lot of dry flops and barrels after. The questions are:
- how do we play our range?
- what counterstrategies can we implement to exploit his tendencies? (ex.: with bluff b/s or b/c then shoving turn over his bet or ... ?)

Example hands (Hero has XX, mr-call pre):

Hand 1:
flop J63r (80)
hero cbet to 30, villain raise to 80, hero...

Hand 2:
flop 833r (80)
hero cbet to 30, villain raise to 80, hero...

Consider flops a little more wet too ex. J63ss or 855ss

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10-14-2013 , 06:14 PM

Exhosa

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 336

Jam over his raise with strong 2nd pairs and top pairs obv. Also gii with draws that has enough odds to do so and you can check back hands like AQ on J63 and call his turn probe, and can continue to call with A high if he is like super aggro to probe and barrel almost everything i guess.

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10-14-2013 , 09:59 PM

daviid

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Originally Posted by Exhosa

whats the point in jamming decent made hands over wide checkraising ranges otf? fold out all his bluffs (that his range mainly consists of if he is that unbalanced and checkraises such a high %age of the time)? it's not "obv" to do this, it makes no sense. there can be exceptions on low card flops where protecting becomes an issue but stationing down is usually better against described villain. i agree with most of the second part though, jamming good draws, checking back some semi strong sd value and make a delayed cbet on certain boards are things to consider against super aggro checkraisers.

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10-15-2013 , 04:12 PM

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centurion

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Originally Posted by daviid

I agree with what you said handwise (we mostly play our hand max EV), but aren't our ranges too unbalanced? Let's say villain is a decent reg, too. He can quickly realize that our checking back range is pretty weak and that our c/calling range is pretty strong.

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10-17-2013 , 03:19 AM

xkcd

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C back air and cbet/3bet value hands?

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10-17-2013 , 06:15 AM

Exhosa

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 336

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Originally Posted by daviid

I didn't mean to use "obv" as "you should jam every top pair" tho. And I thought OP doesn't really need help on "how to play top pair vs high ch /raise " am I wrong ?

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11-13-2013 , 04:53 PM

rapakyvi

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Originally Posted by daviid

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11-13-2013 , 11:22 PM

highroller3

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Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 210

tighten up a bit and overplay your draws. Usually don't need to get over agressive against these people, once you get something they'll beat themselves.

Another thing to take account is how villain perceives your perception of him. When someone is doing the same thing repeatedly, most of the time they're not that great. However, they are aware that they are doing the same thing, this reraising on their part may encourage barreling on later streets when they have the nuts or a strong hand.

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