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06-17-2011 , 12:52 PM
Plauzee, I'm sure his granddad went around during WWII stealing bikes and telling the Germans where the Jews were hiding. Nice way to steal 12 ( not 14!! )K kid!!!! If you had stolen it from me, I swear the god I would have invested another K and I would have had some Polish guy beat you up real bad. Real bad....

Just me 2c :S
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06-17-2011 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RJRJ
Plauzee, I'm sure his granddad went around during WWII stealing bikes and telling the Germans where the Jews were hiding. Nice way to steal 12 ( not 14!! )K kid!!!! If you had stolen it from me, I swear the god I would have invested another K and I would have had some Polish guy beat you up real bad. Real bad....

Just me 2c :S
very classy you´re a real role model
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06-17-2011 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 2WordSuckIt
My mom's dead.
she died in that same country iirc.

I should prolly just ask barbara for clarification though
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06-17-2011 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Hundrye
do you really think people care about bjoerni having 12k or not sol reader? this looks more like people ganging up to make someone pay for doing what they think was wrong, and maybe discouraging people from the same act in the future.

it's not extortion since most of the people couldn't care less about bjoerni's wealth imo
seriously, Hundrye always have the best posts ever, his logic is unparalleled, it literally always makes perfect sense, but I still laugh every time, because he presents it in an awsome manner, all I think of when I read this is like... this roaming gang of bullies/lynchmen enforcing justice... its epic ;P
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06-17-2011 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RJRJ
Plauzee, I'm sure his granddad went around during WWII stealing bikes and telling the Germans where the Jews were hiding. Nice way to steal 12 ( not 14!! )K kid!!!! If you had stolen it from me, I swear the god I would have invested another K and I would have had some Polish guy beat you up real bad. Real bad....

Just me 2c :S
Polish guys rox
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06-17-2011 , 01:40 PM
PlauZee's level of argumentation is so unreasonable & stupid... #storychecksout
All of this makes me sad
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06-17-2011 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hundrye
i'm sure if this was my only option to play there would be a ****ton of spots where i'd be like fk it lets go
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Originally Posted by alexDJI
what a degen
I'm not gonna lie, our entire house has been on stolen neighbors internet for the past week, we're collectively regg'd in 20k+ worth of games at times... it's pretty such, what a bunch of donks we are =/. Backup coming Wednesday!
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06-17-2011 , 02:20 PM
Gross misunderstanding of the anatomy of highstake mindset revealed ITT.

Made me feel better I was worried I was just huge degen for thinking it has/could happen.

(Pretty sure I still am.)
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06-17-2011 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mersenneary
1) When your opponent disconnects in the middle of a tournament, you entered a tournament with this person because you thought you had a legitimate edge. Why should you be forced to sacrifice that edge and make $0 from the SNG just because your opponent disconnected in the middle of it?
2) Your opponent voluntarily started the SNG knowing the risk that they might disconnect. That's different than starting an SNG with somebody who is involuntarily sitting and can't unregister.
3) In one, you're playing a game you'd play anyway, in the second, you're starting games specifically to take advantage of a disconnected player. In one, your intent in joining is to play poker, in the other, your intent in joining is to take free money. Intent matters. It's a pussy thing to do to join a game of poker just to try to take a free buy-in.

In short, winning a match because your opponent disconnected in the middle of it is definitely different than winning matches because you headhunted lobbies and went out of your way to try to start as many games as possible against a disconnected opponent.

Regardless, both are pretty standard ship back situations.
Not disagreeing that both are pretty standard ship back situations but...

1) If you really think you have an edge on someone then you could blind them out and send them back their money minus the edge similarly to the rake. Blinding someone out completely is more than 20x your edge. Saying this is just "taking your edge" is beyond absurd.

2) What? They registered for a HUSNG knowing that they could disconnect. Registering for multiple lobbies at the same time doesn't make the act any less voluntary.

3) Your intent may have been to play poker when you joined the game, but it certainly isn't your intent if you are turbo min-raising trying to steal their money before they get back. Just because you USED to have the intent to play them fairly doesn't make it any more ethical after your intent changes.
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06-17-2011 , 04:42 PM
also wtf I read so much of that cornell fiji thread, where did admo 'ruin his life' ? I didnt see the good part of him getting owned!
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06-17-2011 , 04:46 PM
PlauZee,

You, sir, are worthless.

Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to question their own personal ethics.

Also, I would like to see his full name attached to this thread.

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Originally Posted by PrimordialAA
also wtf I read so much of that cornell fiji thread, where did admo 'ruin his life' ? I didnt see the good part of him getting owned!
+1

Link to ownage?
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06-17-2011 , 04:54 PM
lol at plauzee not owning up to this yet. refund the 12k and donate an extra 20% to your children sir. then maybe you'll get a lobby again one day.

and ya, i don't care about bjoerni lol....he's up a lot more than 12k on me i think i think hes a nice guy, but it's more the principle of the whole thing. this just can't happen between 2 respected regs and have no repercussions.
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06-17-2011 , 06:01 PM
okay... just gonna ask this a last time :

why the freakin fckn hell does noone playing the highest games seem to have a proper working backup connection? i mean if you play at stakes where you can easily loose more than 10k$ by DCing once, that just seems super stupid to me. could have afforded to keep like 3 backup connections running for years for that amount of money. hoping for "high stacks etiquette" seems a little blue-eyed imho.

but than again cheesecake, so whatever
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06-17-2011 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Krumb Snatcha
link or story behind this??



Yea, you are not the only scumbag out there, congrats

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=71553

Lots of discussion after that post as well. Reg B = u cnat spel/Coffee N Ciggz
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06-17-2011 , 07:42 PM
I only play $100, so no idea about high stakes stuff, but there's one thing I really don't understand:

Does Pauzee really think he's like the king that he can exclude himself from the community - like not being able to talk about strategy and stuff with other good players anymore. And not being afraid that Bjoerni will send some high stakes friends after him either.

I mean, if I did something like that at the $100's, then I'd simply expect some $300+ players come after me and completely destroy me for my entire bankroll - in addition to landing on everyone's ignore list in here. So stealing a few buy-ins off another reg would be a very stupid and -EV thing to do.

But this guy apparently thinks he's above all that.

Regarding blinding someone out during a match - I always do this to fish simply because they would do the same to me - however, if another reg ever PM'ed me in here telling me that fish was his friend, then I'd ship back. And of course, I would never even sit a fish knowing that he's disconnected.
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06-17-2011 , 07:48 PM
But he, the fish, would sit you if positions were reversed, and certainly you'd sit him if he was not disconnected.
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06-17-2011 , 08:00 PM
Sure - and I'd probably end up sitting him anyways as soon as I'm ready to start my next game simply because why should I wait for him to come back before I can open another lobby.
But I would only do that in games where I'd sit him anyways if he was around - not go searching for him at higher stakes or something like that.
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06-17-2011 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mersenneary
You can also add this argument which has some merit to it:

4) I pay a good amount for a backup connection that keeps me from losing money when I disconnect in the middle of games. I can keep money I win in legitimate games from people who aren't willing to be good at the internet part of internet poker when they really could and should be.

The key point again being the difference between decisions in legitimate poker games and decisions outside of legitimate poker games, and the belief that you should join a game of poker because you want to play poker, not some other angle.

But again, shipback in this situation is standard as well, but there are more legitimate reasons to say no.
You should post a blog and start a thread here where you mention this and say that you will never return a penny from dcs to anybody and if they send to you after you dc, you'll send it right back to them (regardless if they read your thread). Maybe change your location to "idontsendbacktodcs" too just to drive the entire point home.

The backup connection shouldn't just be insurance, with the above recommendation it's actually +EV. Don't get involved with drama and have zero reason to get upset if you still somehow dc bc you know that money is gone (but you won't barring earthquake type variance).

And obviously this **** will always happen guys. Like that Tmac guy screwing heybude recently, it's a sign of needing money and there's always formerly respected regs that people don't keep up with day to day that go busto at some point, get desperate and will take what they can get.

I mean go ahead and police this action, but don't expect it to never happen again. It's about as difficult to police as making sure anybody that rolls a stake pays it back, you just have zero leverage over people that are desperate and lacking confidence, they do shady ****.
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06-17-2011 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mtvdeuem
Look honey this post is not about u and me, so try to behave. And try not to call me a fish ok? and i ll be in Vegas really soon if u have to say something to me, u ll have your chance
swag

hu4fisticuffs one time dealer
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06-17-2011 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nanana
okay... just gonna ask this a last time :

why the freakin fckn hell does noone playing the highest games seem to have a proper working backup connection? i mean if you play at stakes where you can easily loose more than 10k$ by DCing once, that just seems super stupid to me. could have afforded to keep like 3 backup connections running for years for that amount of money. hoping for "high stacks etiquette" seems a little blue-eyed imho.

but than again cheesecake, so whatever
i mean everyone of us ends up in hotels with ******ed connections, and if internet seems to be somewhat decent we're like let's give it a shot and most of us have friends to sit us somewhat rapidly if we happen to disconnect
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06-17-2011 , 09:41 PM
In short: High stakes poker players became high stakes poker players by being willing to take risks.
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06-17-2011 , 09:45 PM
also, i lived in a house once were noone really felt like paying internet bills so i got stuck playing on a wireless card, and i frequently try to grind in a train until my dconn timebank runs out by which time it gets too dangerous to play even for me.

edit: to be fair, during these times i pretty much always limit myself to playing exclusively super turbos
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06-17-2011 , 09:48 PM
Problem solved if you played cash as well as sngs, btw guys.
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06-17-2011 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Sol Reader
Problem solved if you played cash as well as sngs, btw guys.
Sorry, can you write a few paragraphs to explain this amazing discovery to us?
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06-17-2011 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sol Reader
Problem solved if you played cash as well as sngs, btw guys.
no lol, in cash noone sends back, obviously in cash you have the advantage of being able to sitout in case you ever feel you are most likely to disconnect for too long tho, on which note: i have a buddy who grinded 24 tables of 400-1knl on internet of a neighbour who he only knew for a couple of days
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