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06-16-2011 , 06:00 AM
Alright, hello everyone. I publish the following because I want to show everyone what kind of person the well known reg "PlauZee" from germany is. I offered him a possibility to clarify the case in skype but he didn't reply at all, even after me waiting 12 hours.

Yesterday I was opensitting the 5ks, 2ks and 1ks. I was playing one table 1k non turb against alloman when I suddenly disconnected. Having a USB stick for those circumstances I wasn't too excited but it turned out it wasn't worth the money, meaning: I had no internet for about 45 minutes.

Shortly after disconnecting PlauZee, who NEVER EVER plays me, instantly joined me on 5ks/2ks. He blinded me down as fast as he could and took $14,000 from me.

tablechat:
Siervos: are you seriously stealing plauzee?
wuffle84: yes he does
Siervos: i cant imagine that
PlauZee: yep. we have some history on that, so thats fine imo
alloman: yeah
Siervos: so who is taking the last 5k
Siervos: alloman
Siervos: its yours
alloman: you owne plauzee
alloman: like railing my game
alloman: its worth it
alloman: :P
[Plauzee now sitting me in another 5k]
alloman: :P
alloman: for this

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First I want to admit: OF COURSE it isn't his mistake that I disconnected. But taking advantage of this fact in such a way, is just a sickening and discusting behavior. It just dissapoints me and makes me angry that a person who has a charity organisation "ALL IN 4 KIDS" and knows many regs, makes such a move on another reg. It just leaks any sort of moral or ethics (and YES, there ARE moral standards, even in poker).
Just for example, Fishenzon disconnected a while ago aswell, I instantly sat him in all lobbies and afterwards send the money back to him, even paying my own rake. And I didn't feel like "whoa im so gentle" it is just something you do because when this happens to yourself, you would be GLAD if someone else saved you from losing several thousands of dollars.

PlauZee did this on purpose and even after sleeping over it, he still insists on keeping the money.

Thanks a lot Chris, you really are generous person.

Oh, a little sidenote: PlauZee said in the chat above we have a "history". Well, our history is basically, that he flamed me since i was playing 200s, telling me that I am a ****ing fish and should stick to the 100s. Ironically he dropped 30k (at peak) vs me and stopped sitting me. CONGRATULATIONS CHRIS, YOU ARE UP NOW VS ME
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06-16-2011 , 06:01 AM
First impressions: hard to expect exemplary behavior if you guys have bad blood between eachother. TBH, if somebody I really dislike discs and is open sitting 5ks, I don't know if I could resist all that free money.

*awaits PlauZee's side of the story*

Last edited by u cnat spel; 06-16-2011 at 06:06 AM.
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06-16-2011 , 06:06 AM
whats your sn?
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06-16-2011 , 06:08 AM
Same sn like here

this is such a tilting story
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06-16-2011 , 06:13 AM
This kind of behavior between regs is just terrible imo. I am 100% sure bjoerni would have sent back to Plauzee and it's not like they're sworn enemies or anything. As far as I know they have played a few times and Plauzee even comments on bjoerni's blog often, and I believe it's generally friendly. This kind of behavior is unforgivable imo by someone like Plauzee.

I see very few cases where it is ok for a reg to do this to another well knwon reg and they would be very extreme cases where there is really hatred between the players which wasn't the case here.
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06-16-2011 , 06:15 AM
(as a side note, this is a really strong argument for implementing a feature that automatically unregisters you from all SNG's if you disconnect. It's pure common sense, how this is not in the software yet is beyond me.)
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06-16-2011 , 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by u cnat spel
(as a side note, this is a really strong argument for implementing a feature that automatically unregisters you from all SNG's if you disconnect. It's pure common sense, how this is not in the software yet is beyond me.)
This + a billion
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06-16-2011 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bjoerni89

Shortly after disconnecting PlauZee, who NEVER EVER plays me, instantly joined me on 5ks/2ks. He blinded me down as fast as he could and took $14,000 from me.
We played some hours before as well. And I took not 14k, but 12k. The difference is not big, just the fact that I was not the only reg who blinded you down. The other 2k was sat by another reg.
And I sold % for all matches we played yesterday as I often did in history when playing you.


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Originally Posted by Bjoerni89

First I want to admit: OF COURSE it isn't his mistake that I disconnected. But taking advantage of this fact in such a way, is just a sickening and discusting behavior. It just dissapoints me and makes me angry that a person who has a charity organisation "ALL IN 4 KIDS" and knows many regs, makes such a move on another reg. It just leaks any sort of moral or ethics (and YES, there ARE moral standards, even in poker).
Just for example, Fishenzon disconnected a while ago aswell, I instantly sat him in all lobbies and afterwards send the money back to him, even paying my own rake. And I didn't feel like "whoa im so gentle" it is just something you do because when this happens to yourself, you would be GLAD if someone else saved you from losing several thousands of dollars.
I never did that to any other reg. If you only point out your part of the history we had before, it's fine. But be aware I sat other disconnected regs as well just to send them the money back afterwards.

I HAVE no charity, I just support them and I'm glad to do so.


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Originally Posted by Bjoerni89

Oh, a little sidenote: PlauZee said in the chat above we have a "history". Well, our history is basically, that he flamed me since i was playing 200s, telling me that I am a ****ing fish and should stick to the 100s. Ironically he dropped 30k (at peak) vs me and stopped sitting me. CONGRATULATIONS CHRIS, YOU ARE UP NOW VS ME
Again, just one part of the story. In your German blog you recently wrote that you leave 5ks when your girlfriend is asking you to do. I don't want to get into that much, but if you say so, it seems ok to you getting blinded down.
I never stopped sitting you. We played some 5ks recently. And I was up vs you before that match already. Check your sharkscope - and again, be aware I didn't blind you down for 14k but 12k.

I know it's not very kind of me. But it's pretty standard and common to steal blinds if people don't know well each other or don't have any agreement.
This is the only post I send in this thread, I'm not interested in things getting too personal.

gl guys

Last edited by TheRealPlauZee; 06-16-2011 at 06:39 AM.
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06-16-2011 , 06:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by u cnat spel
(as a side note, this is a really strong argument for implementing a feature that automatically unregisters you from all SNG's if you disconnect. It's pure common sense, how this is not in the software yet is beyond me.)
Agreed it's somewhat amazing nothing is in place for this...
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06-16-2011 , 06:40 AM
Your arguments are bad imo

Concerning the best one: "I know it's not very kind of me. But it's pretty standard and common to steal blinds if people don't know well each other or don't have any agreement."

I'd be surprised if that's what most high stakes regs think when another high stakes player is concerned with who they have history. Would you agree to refund if this practise turned out to be not common or standard?
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06-16-2011 , 06:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by u cnat spel
(as a side note, this is a really strong argument for implementing a feature that automatically unregisters you from all SNG's if you disconnect. It's pure common sense, how this is not in the software yet is beyond me.)

i think the reason for this, is that often for example me, i disconnect for 1 second or something and it immediately comes up, like every 30 mins or w.e it somehow "refreshes" the inet connection that makes me disco for a milli second and its just like tables lagg and everything continues as usual after that

with having this function it would be a bitchhhh to re-reg every 30 mins to all games

BUT I DO AGREE and dont htink it is a bad idea t all
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06-16-2011 , 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRealPlauZee
We played some hours before as well. And I took not 14k, but 12k. The difference is not big, just the fact that I was not the only reg who blinded you down. The other 2k was sat by another reg.
And I sold % for all matches we played yesterday as I often did in history when playing you.

okay, thats true. alloman also sat me in a 2k. the other thing: oh WOW, u so u sold some %? cool, then i should obviously rename the topic into "plauzee stole 33%, XXX 20%, XXX 31%, .... It doesnt matter at all, you have been the one who took the money from me



I never did that to any other reg. If you only point out your part of the history we had before, it's fine. But be aware I sat other disconnected regs as well just to send them the money back afterwards.

cool. i def. feel better now.

I HAVE no charity, I just support them and I'm glad to do so.

that, aswell, changes a lot


Again, just one part of the story. In your German blog you recently wrote that you leave 5ks when your girlfriend is asking you to do. I don't want to get into that much, but if you say so, it seems ok to you getting blinded down.
But I never stopped sitting you. We played some 5ks recently. And I was up vs you before that match already. Check your sharkscope - and again, be aware I didn't blind you down for 14k but 12k.

its something different if I decide on my own to leave a game or someone else takes the money KNOWING i didnt chose that option. and are you kidding me, I was sitting like 10 hours in the 5k/2k/1k lobbies while uve been playing on the limits below. dont tell me you are still playing me or something. You saw that i disconnected and joined me. and my sharkscope says I am down 7,xk vs you. if my mathskills are still decent enough I'd assume I was up before that.

I know it's not very kind of me. But it's pretty standard and common to steal blinds if people don't know well each other or don't have any agreement.
This is the only post I send in this thread, I'm not interested in things getting too personal.

at least you know it. and it is NOT pretty standard. you know that on your own because nearly every reg I have talked about it was shocked by your behavior. and some of the even told you. so dont act like its a "common thing"

gl guys
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06-16-2011 , 06:48 AM
yeah i disconnect on average 5 times per game, only for few seconds tho so never lose any blinds.
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06-16-2011 , 06:56 AM
Can people talking about an unreg when disconnected feature talk about it somewhere else please. I totally agree its necessary but this thread is about plauzee being a douche or about high stakes etiquette.
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06-16-2011 , 06:58 AM
whats there to say, i dont think its std eitherway and its not friendly but what ya gonna do ...
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06-16-2011 , 07:00 AM
wow i guess if i´m rolled its not that much money anymore but right now i´m not sure i could resist free 12 thousand $ just because of high stakes etiquette.

edit:
also at a certain lvl i would try to teach a few of my non poker friends who i can really trust basic poker so in emergencies i can call them to take over.
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06-16-2011 , 07:00 AM
plauzee is a scumbag, end of discussion
that's stealing. it's fine to blind your oponent down if he dissconnects, but it's not fine to sit all his games esp. at the level your're not usually playing
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06-16-2011 , 07:11 AM
Yeah PlauZee likes to consider himself someone of good character. PlauZee am i correct in making the following assumptions:

- You were a featured VIP for Pokerstars at the PCA and therefore could consider yourself an ambassador for the site in some respects.

- You are an affiliate for the moneybookers VIP poker status.

- You are a very vocal supporter of a well known German charity.

If i am correct, how do you think your decision affects the stakeholders associated with the above organisations? How do you think your decision fits with someone who holds the first two roles?

Let me remind you of a time where i sat you on FTP across multiple tables. You forgot that you were on one of the tables and i reminded you that it was open rather than blinding you down.

I don't bring this up to show everyone what a great charitable guy i am. I just want you to realise that even if there is some sort of friction between two players, you can still afford them some good manners.
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06-16-2011 , 07:15 AM
Lol I always knew this guy was a scumbag... the interview on HUSNG already admitted he was bumhunting scum who thinks too much of himself.

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Originally Posted by TakeHerOnACruise
Yeah PlauZee likes to consider himself someone of good character. PlauZee am i correct in making the following assumptions:

- You were a featured VIP for Pokerstars at the PCA and therefore could consider yourself an ambassador for the site in some respects.

- You are an affiliate for the moneybookers VIP poker status.

- You are a very vocal supporter of a well known German charity.
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Time to **** up his reputation imo. Im sure charities would like to know the money this guy supports them with is stolen.

Last edited by t1lt; 06-16-2011 at 07:24 AM.
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06-16-2011 , 07:25 AM
Rofl. what a scumbag. he should atleast play u now. fkn bumhunter
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06-16-2011 , 07:25 AM
Thats pretty low. I also think this move will turn out to be minusEV for PlauZee in the long run, because a good reputation is far more worth than a few buy ins
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06-16-2011 , 07:30 AM
I don't usually like violence, but this act should be punished with a punch in the face...especially because of his disgusting attitude.

I know it would be hard for me to control myself if he stole 12k from me and I saw him on a live tournament sometime.

It's the same if like ur bike gets stolen and u see the thief in the act of stealing... U will punch him in the face also
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06-16-2011 , 07:33 AM
yes, plauzee should be stabbed
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06-16-2011 , 07:45 AM
Interesting, I would love to see the action between the two after this has happened now..


HU4ROLLZ?
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06-16-2011 , 07:46 AM
hope bjoerni will bust plauzee's bankroll
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