Vs all possible flushes I can have on the river:

Board: 7h Td Qd Ah 6h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.429% 46.43% 00.00% 13 0.00 { KhQh, Kh9h, Kh8h, Kh5h, Kh4h, Kh3h, Kh2h, Qh9h, Qh8h, Qh5h, Qh4h, Qh3h, Qh2h, 9h8h, 9h5h, 9h4h, 9h3h, 9h2h, 8h5h, 8h4h, 8h3h, 8h2h, 5h4h, 5h3h, 5h2h, 4h3h, 4h2h, 3h2h } 2.1% of total hands
Hand 1: 53.571% 53.57% 00.00% 15 0.00 { JhTh }

Although, If I had KhQhI would have cbet the flop and stuck it in, and I'd probably fold some of the other junky suited hands pre about 50% of the time.. maybe not considering we were evenly stacked, but I think I would have folded the 92s-94s/82-84s/52s/42s/43s/32s pf) leaving this equity

Board: 7h Td Qd Ah 6h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.588% 70.59% 00.00% 12 0.00 { Kh9h, Kh8h, Kh5h, Kh4h, Kh3h, Kh2h, Qh9h, Qh8h, Qh5h, Qh4h, Qh3h, Qh2h, 9h8h, 9h5h, 8h5h, 5h4h, 5h3h } (1.3% of total hands)
Hand 1: 29.412% 29.41% 00.00% 5 0.00 { JhTh }


I can't recall the pot size (i mean, I'm pretty sure it was.. i think 2920 in total, but if i have the hand history right, it was 25/50 blinds, there was 200 in pot when u bet 120 on turn, and 440 on river and u bet 360 and i shipped it for the rest, so I don't think you can get away from the hand even with that range because your value bet hand on the river can bet 2pair/broadway/flushes, where my value shove hands can only be flushes, so you have to fold 2pair/broadway)

However, if the board was like QhTd7dAh2h, your equity should be much better vs my flush shove range on the river because I can't have Q-high flushes:

Board: 7d Td Qh Ah 2h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 27.778% 27.78% 00.00% 5 0.00 { Kh9h, Kh8h, Kh5h, Kh4h, Kh3h, Kh2h, 9h8h, 9h7h, 9h6h, 9h5h, 8h7h, 8h6h, 8h5h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, 6h4h, 5h4h, 5h3h }
Hand 1: 72.222% 72.22% 00.00% 13 0.00 { JhTh }

I guess this illustrates spamz point. I hadn't really analyzed the last hand. Also, my river bet was large and pretty polarizing so you may even have flatted some of your lower flushes.... just tough to fold a backdoor flush with seconds ticking away. My brain kind of freezes in large pots.

Not that I should necessarily be folding there, but yeah if the Q had been of hearts it would have made a massive difference

yeah exactly what i mean, even a hand like 2card flush vs 2card flush on nonpaired board can be considered "not a cooler" if we barely beat villain's valuerange and then it becomes a hand that just serves as a bluffcatcher with blockers and we beat a small portion of a valuerange

I'm shaking my head no as I'm reading this. There is zero way i'm flatting lower flushes on the river when the board reads out 7TQA6. you can have strong 2pair (QT+) or broadway, and be frustrated enough to call with those hands.

Also because at the time of the call, you were already down.. 7 games, so I could have turned a hand like Kh7x, KhTx, AxKh (this one is a bit of a stretch) into a bluff hand on the river.

fair enough, I've just seen you flat call fairly often with hands most people would raise for value 100%.

But I think you are contradicting yourself when you say I might call out of frustration with two pair and yet you could turn a Khx hand in to a bluff there

these were my exact thoughts when i read his post

Hm.. struggling to think of a hand where I flat called the river where you could call a raise and where I'd be comfortable enough with raise/folding or raise/callingshove.

Also, just because I can turn hands into bluff even though I think you're frustrated enough to call, only makes it a small %.

This isn't too bad imo. I would def advocate playing more hands from the bb, but I don't think this is a big leak.

I don't think this is bad either, especially if your opponent opens a lot of buttons.

Congrats on winning the challenge tho.

if palinca is minraising i think its pretty horrific, although against 3x its meh. allowing your opponent to show immediate profit with his open raise is basically just giving up oop

I min raised pretty much 95% during the match I think.

Back to the last hand, I also think that even though I was check/raising a lot of flop, you would have been inclined to bet many of the holdings that can backdoor a flush, and maybe not alway call the turn bet with low FDs, meaning that your raise on the river is even stronger.

As for spots when you didn't raise and could have, I don't know it's a general impression that you were overly cautious in some spots (I think you flatted some straights when there were backdoor flush possibilities, and also trip kings with a jack kicker when I think it was fairly safe to raise, I mean it's not as if I were some kind of re bluffing maniac).

Yea, I can't really disagree w/ you here, but if you are not too good post-flop playing tighter pre-flop can't be that bad.

after having my soul crushed at internet poker, I'm going to do some introspection here for a couple of days :

http://www.dreamtime-laos.com/

see ya fellows

sounds pretty awesome and its hard to beat $5.90 a night

bump by request

i still love palinca and his hot self tho

funny that borderline is banned tho

just reminded me of spamz and everytime i ask what happened to him i forget to look up the answers and the thread will be about 4-8 pages further ahead

lol bumpaments

who requested it! give me names!

my friend borderline, of course

I'll bump this then. status report?

I dont think he played online at all after this HU4(FREE)ROLLZ

so no idea? I know he was in vegas and didnt do too bad tho

Didnt he just ran good? Or didn't he bought himself out?

buyouts are for pussys ~

He's still alive... talked to him on AIM today.

That's about the only status update there is afaik.

Who cares about borderline anyway... im sure he has another account here that only a few know about.
Also please close this troll inducing thread before it get's out of hand again... there's no value in bumping a thread like this imo.