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06-18-2015 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sharko
Concerning the action, I have already seen a few regs 4-6 tablings the 100€ so you can definitely get action, not 24/24h though.

Also, I've seen one playername "spinforfun" on 100€ .fr, which is strange as some previously mentionned similar stuff. Seems like some players who already know how to play spins have created new accounts ?
Why not? The .eu regs from the EEA discovered that the action on .fr was softer, which was more than offsetting the slightly higher rake. Some of them switched from .eu to .fr*, thus balancing the softness of the pools - making the .fr one tougher and the .com one softer. That's 'the invisible hand of the market' in action.

The downside of the French Stars is that they prohibit affiliates from marketing them to non-French citizens (the latter can only sign up directly), so the fish there come pretty only from France, while the regs come from many European countries.

* Stars.fr is accessible to anyone who has a bank account in the EU or EEA except the restricted countries and is able to get a snailmail verification letter. The officially restricted countries (from where play at .fr is not allowed if one is either physically there or is resident there) are the US (and their territories), Italy, Spain, Belgium, Denmark and Estonia. The UK is somehow not mentioned in the T&C specifically as restricted (needing to play via .co.uk 'instead of .fr'), apparently they need to be updated.

Last edited by coon74; 06-18-2015 at 02:18 PM. Reason: minor corrections - no need to re-read
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06-19-2015 , 08:09 PM
hmm i just lost 27 games in a row that seems hard to do.
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06-19-2015 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cdfj
hmm i just lost 27 games in a row that seems hard to do.
Not so hard as you just did it today.
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06-19-2015 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sharko
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm French, I was playing them on .com while at uni in Scotland, then I came back to France for the summer so I don't have the choice and have to start playing them on .fr

If I had the choice I would play on .com until reaching the higher buy-in levels because the rake is lower. Then if you are ready for the higher levels, probably 50-100€ .fr are a bit easier than the $60s .com
Concerning the action, I have already seen a few regs 4-6 tablings the 100€ so you can definitely get action, not 24/24h though.

Also, I've seen one playername "spinforfun" on 100€ .fr, which is strange as some previously mentionned similar stuff. Seems like some players who already know how to play spins have created new accounts ?

thought u were scottish my appologies yeah there was a reg in the $60s que called iwant180k or something obv new account for spins by some1 or some1 they have tutoured from scratch could be
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06-19-2015 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cdfj
hmm i just lost 27 games in a row that seems hard to do.
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Originally Posted by restorativejustice
Not so hard as you just did it today.
Fish
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06-20-2015 , 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by coon74
Why not? The .eu regs from the EEA discovered that the action on .fr was softer, which was more than offsetting the slightly higher rake. Some of them switched from .eu to .fr*, thus balancing the softness of the pools - making the .fr one tougher and the .com one softer. That's 'the invisible hand of the market' in action.
Yes I'm aware of that and agree. The original post was about these playernames on pokerstars.com, which can also be explained by experimented players coming from other networks but remains suspicious. I personally don't care that much, was just trying to add some material if anyone is conducting investigations lol
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06-21-2015 , 01:55 PM
Anyone know any details about the spins daily leaderboard in the client? Besides that it's based on wins and all stakes are eligible, any prize pool?
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06-21-2015 , 03:57 PM
Seems like it's a running total from any prize pool. No info on what you get for first.
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06-22-2015 , 04:52 AM
Best analytical tool for high blind level when one player has around 10bb and the other 15bb? I've got CR EV but the tournament mode looks at things though ICM which is not applicable here... could just look at in cash mode I guess. ICMizer my best bet for this level? Is there any other options? Would be good to know if there are any videos any for this too

thanks for any help,
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06-22-2015 , 11:18 AM
Strangely enough, I was in yesterday's top 2% with 1 win, but today 1 win has put me into the top 70% only

I don't know if the buy-in matters for the leaderboard, but if it doesn't, it might be +EV to grind some low stake like $1-3 where autopiloting at 15-20 tables still allows for a positive ROI, in order to win the leaderboard.

I've just encountered some Russian who was 4-tabling on a tablet, 3x$3 + 1x$7, playing pretty much push/fold, as far as I can tell - that's dedication
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06-22-2015 , 01:48 PM
Just noticed that my PT4 is sometimes showing wrong results in $15 spins. Since most popular prizepools are either $30 or $60, they are correct in my PT4 like 95% of times, but sometimes it shows that i won $42.75 for a first place.

Any ideas?
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06-22-2015 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by coon74
Strangely enough, I was in yesterday's top 2% with 1 win, but today 1 win has put me into the top 70% only

I don't know if the buy-in matters for the leaderboard, but if it doesn't, it might be +EV to grind some low stake like $1-3 where autopiloting at 15-20 tables still allows for a positive ROI, in order to win the leaderboard.

I've just encountered some Russian who was 4-tabling on a tablet, 3x$3 + 1x$7, playing pretty much push/fold, as far as I can tell - that's dedication
sorry i m not aware about this, is there some leaderboards for spin and go ??
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06-22-2015 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sakutsuj
Just noticed that my PT4 is sometimes showing wrong results in $15 spins. Since most popular prizepools are either $30 or $60, they are correct in my PT4 like 95% of times, but sometimes it shows that i won $42.75 for a first place.

Any ideas?

save your tournament summerys then 'get hands from disk' upload tournie summarys refresh and job done
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06-22-2015 , 11:04 PM
yeah seen people winning 377 spins in a day? how is that even remotely possible?
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06-23-2015 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by squire1888
yeah seen people winning 377 spins in a day? how is that even remotely possible?
After my rough calculation this is 10 hours 4 tabling. Impressive, but possible.
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06-23-2015 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluffyou
After my rough calculation this is 10 hours 4 tabling. Impressive, but possible.

On winamax.fr we are thinking one player is cheating, he is not playing 4 tables 10 hours but 37 H 8T then stop 4h30 and play again 28H ! stop 55' and play again 3h stop 9h and play again 22 hours !!!

Do you think you guys this is possible ? playin' 50€ btw.

Not sure can link the thread about this on a French forum here..?
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06-23-2015 , 02:12 AM
It's possible. Is a possible indication of botting or multiple users of the account if it's longterm though.
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06-23-2015 , 03:31 AM
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After my rough calculation this is 10 hours 4 tabling. Impressive, but possible.
well that implies he wins all of them, even if he has like 50% winrate, he would need to play almost 800 games.

Only way this is possible if he is 10+ tabling the lower stakes.
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06-23-2015 , 03:34 AM
BTW there are no prizes for this spin n go leader board right?
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06-23-2015 , 03:47 AM
Prizes TBA afaik
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06-23-2015 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kobmish
Anyone know any details about the spins daily leaderboard in the client? Besides that it's based on wins and all stakes are eligible, any prize pool?
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Originally Posted by CheckN0rris
BTW there are no prizes for this spin n go leader board right?
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
Hello all,

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There is actually a leaderboard in the client now that tracks the number of daily Spin & go wins. It has no prizes, and is really more a trial of some new functionality that we have developed. We are hoping to have other variations available in the not too distant future.

By the way, what would you think about Sit & Go (including Spin & Gos) leaderboards that do not have any monetary rewards? Waste of space, or can they contribute to increasing the awareness and volume of the Sit & Gos?

...

We are indeed experimenting with different types of leaderboards. They don’t currently have any prizes as they are more a trial of functionality than anything else. In the future, we are likely to run promotions that involve leaderboards, but also to have leaderboards that will only give the winners bragging rights.

Thanks,
Baard
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06-23-2015 , 07:54 AM
What % roi is achievable at $30 for a mediocra HT player?
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06-23-2015 , 10:54 AM
Leaderboards with prizes > leaderboards with no prizes > no leaderboards.

Awareness has value.
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06-23-2015 , 11:30 AM
not having prizes at all seems a little weird. even if it's something really small like free tickets to certain mtts would be a lot better than nothing.
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06-23-2015 , 11:31 AM
What would be good odds for 1million VPP in 6 months on 60$ spins 55K games, profitable before rakeback in EV challenge? For someone who made 700k vpp in 4 years time frame and played 4k spins in 2 months with 4% ev roi.

For those wondering thats like >10 hours day 4 tabling.

What about 18k games in 30 days?

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