This should get more love. Well done stars on introducing a game that should be passed from generation to generation. If you want to even out the variance in the family that is.

Finally a game where you can find out if you have a lucky account

Once again: you don't have to deal; if you don't want to, just refuse to negotiate.

Playing for $10K is about as much fun as playing for the full prizepool, and underrolled players are going to be scared too, so talking the opponents into giving you a bigger-than-average cut + leaving a lot of money in the game to the winner is a strategic option that shouldn't be dismissed.

Even if you're going to never deal, your opponents will be more tilted and angry and play worse if there is a dealmaking facility but you reject the deal in their faces, than if there's no such facility and they quietly assume that you wouldn't mind to make a deal if you could.

Dealmaking with some mandatory money left in play, as I've suggested above, doesn't subtract much from railbirds' fun, especially because they're used to that happening in MTTs and understand the reasoning behind it. If you think that railing is not fun after a deal, why not jump into the games yourself (and pay more rake to the room to thank it for providing you with the observation opportunity, unlike non-Rational rooms having analogous SnG formats)?

all high tier jackpots should start with the question "chop it?". easiest way to do it you don't need support (which i'm guessing is the problem).

maybe the question could be like (alarm sounds question pops up 20s to answer if not play for all)
"CHOP HOW MUCH?
"Play for all, 25% 50% 75% chop it all"

all 3 players click whatever, and you play with the lowest % option a player chose.

Haha.....I got a nice chuckle out of this, thanks

Get ready for all the "I'm spinning bad this month." threads.

An automatic dealmaking system like at Full Tilt will suffice, there's no need to advise a deal via a pop-up. It should necessarily be automatic: the time that the admin took to simply arrive, calculate and propose the chop numbers at the WCOOP ME FT was ridiculous.

The simplistic option you've offered won't work that well because consistent winners will want to get a slightly bigger cut of the prize pool than their less experienced opponents. They can of course find the right balance between giving up some EV and exposing themselves to bigger variance and click the 25% or 50% option, but still there will be less flexibility than desired.

Would also like to hear an answer about these questions.

i think my option is better than deals like Full Tilt, it's faster and trying to get people to give you more $ cuz you are better at these tourneys is just to greedy IMO i would guess most regs would be happy choping it but no idea maybe you are right.

also would you really not deal 36k if they didn't want you to get 12,100 or whatever?

Maybe I should post this in the PokerTracker thread but I'll just ask here first; Is there a way to see what amount each "Spin and Go" was played for in the database?

I played 10 x $15 ones today and while my winnings all show the amount returned from the ones I won the losing ones all show minus $15.

I'd like to know the total amount I spun and played for in that sample. Anyone know how to accomplish that?

The thing is that they'll be willing to forfeit a bit of $s to me just so that I allow them to reduce their own variance. If regs refuse, they'll end up tilting more than me, which will boost my EV, if not in that particular tourney, then in some indirect way, e.g. if they need to take a long break from play after losing or switch to another format permanently, I'll have fewer competitors left in the field (which matters more for higher BIs with smaller fields).

That's similar to what fellow SSPLO posters tell me about why they refuse to run it twice; though it doesn't affect their EV directly, they see indirect benefits like making other regs tilt or building a deeper stack to cover weaker players. Ironically, I do have RIT on as a sign of courtesy, but that's because I don't think such benefits are significant in cash games where people aren't hurt much by refusals to run twice (as they don't affect the overall variance much), and there's no way I'd be able collect 'bribes' from opponents for turning RIT on.

Does anyone with PT4 have a HUD for these? I assume HUDs don't work with them yet, but just wanted to check I don't have an out of date version of PT4 or something. Thanks.

HUD works for me

My support ticket is being considered; I was told to rebuild the DB cache, but this process was terminated with the same overflow error.

(Edit: I had jinxed myself, tried to play tonight, and postgres.exe started absorbing RAM like mad, so not only did import ever finish, but everything else was about to get hung It might have smth to do with some recent Titan (not iPoker-wide) changes, though.)

We need to have a bit of patience, they're usually quick with such fixes.

Reading through that thread makes me kinda smile. So many people i never heared about... kinda convinces me to not chop with 99% or ask huge premium. Regs who grind out solid volume on these wont be too interested in this either unless they play against other (solid) regs...

Hmm, I created a new DB, and the HUD did work well with Stars Spin & Gos. So I now have to test iPoker import separately to find out if it's the cause of the problem...

Edit: hmm, iPoker hands are being imported well too, but suddenly some hands disappeared from the 'Processed' folder to nowhere, probably because of some forced terminations by Task Manager...

Anyway, I now see no danger in using the PT4 HUD (starting from version 4.11.10) for Spins, it should be working fine.

Quadchrazs just hit the big one $3k for third place now we know his account is just lucky

This is very important but I dont think its possible. Does the hh include the prize that actually came out? Anyone has an answer?

It includes the prize only if you've finished 1st or 2nd (in other words, if the info about who's won is known from the hands you've been dealt in).

only thing i don't like about this is imagine how many tourneys you have to play to spite call someone back at the 1,000x jackpot.

So it's impossible to track prize distribution?

You could manually do it in pt4/hem via editing tournaments, but that's probably too much of a hassle.

why cant ps make the hh in a way that would allow prize tracking?

I imagine it's a relatively simple code change, definite suggestion for PS to consider pls

rake is too high for blind lobbies

Baard

Been splashing around in these for a bit of fun, and I think there might be a small programming problem with them. After playing four or five, I regged for another one (cos they're addictive like crack ) and it sat me at an empty table and then just hung there without seating anyone else. I thought I'd leave it and see if it resolved itself, and so I fired up another one. Played the next one OK but the stuck one was still there unplayed nearly ten minutes later. I don't believe you were struggling for traffic in a brand new $1 SNG, so before I unregged I took a screen shot, if it helps you see anything and solve the glitch



You'll be able to use my screen name to check the time stamps from my playing history, try looking around 4am server time this morning (2nd Oct).


This isn't the first time it happened to me either, it's the second time. If you check back through my history for yesterday, or maybe Tuesday evening, I can't remember which, you'll find where I unregged another one of these for exactly the same reason.

Cheers