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Originally Posted by callme
You think Spin&Gos are the only reason for the collapse of Husngs? By removing the casual grinder/shottaker with your cartels you are more than responsible for cutting away a big chunk of traffic yourself. Now all you have left is yourself and some fish, and they dont seem to be too thrilled to get snapsat by the same opponents over and over again.
Yes, I am sure the game would be better off with tons of more bumhunters that only play recs.
I'm sure the average rec prefers to be sat by 5 bumhunters and 5 players that face regs and recs, rather than 10 players that face regs and recs.
C'mon, it's obvious that something had to be done given the amount of players jumping in and trying to bumhunt without ever "earning their keep" by facing other regs.
Sure, a more elegant solution is that people just face any other reg they feel is weak, but unfortunately the way the registration software was made and not ever modified, ends up making it so that the player that sits a reg makes it easier for everyone else, and harder for himself. Thus these groups were started.
Shot taker wise, yes it's harder now, but it's also more rewarding. And far from removed, you're not speaking the truth. There's even crazy success examples of guys going from $15s to $200s during the "cartel" times. People that aren't doing well are spreading negativity, people that don't play the game are spreading negativity. That's bound to happen. For years, the bumhunters of hu cash resisted every single change that was good for that game, and the poker sites were hesitant to make good changes. Ultimately, those games sustained major damage bc they let the bumhunters have free reign for way too long, without a legitimate challenge to sitting the bad players. It's not your right to solely sit the worst players in any game, it's something that should be earned.
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Originally Posted by Dilandio
Browsed this thread looking for graphs of people beating 30$ spins with 37% win rate over 5k games but didnt find any. Can regs with high samples from 30$ please post their ITM?
As we see with how many huge HUSNG winners block these days, people aren't exactly jumping to share success. Many want the heavy paranoia and "it's not profitable!" screams of early days to ring true, so that the gambly recs remain, but the hordes of regs are hesitant. Or so goes their thought process. It won't last imo. The profit in this game might not be so obvious to bad players for awhile, but the regs are getting it more and more every day. When they launched people were writing petitions about how these would kill poker. Now people are smartly shutting up as they at least try them (and many profit from them). We didn't have petitions against hyper husngs, but otherwise the reaction was similar. Many profited early on, while others stuck to turbos and said hypers were a luckfest of high variance that nobody would beat long term for much.
But perhaps you'll find some takers. In today's fairly selfish climate, however, I would not anticipate it.
That's not a criticism either, people can do what they want of course for their own benefit, it's just the reality of the situation. People no longer really believe in profit driving new interest in the game, they forget why they got involved originally when they were (often) initially losers (for the profit), and they aren't proud of their results enough to share. That's their right according to the site's rules, so they can block/avoid data sharing.
Last edited by ChicagoRy; 01-04-2015 at 03:22 AM.