@chicagoRy mostly agreed, but its the first time where they can fak with regs so much, as far as i understand it has been stated that seating in those isnt random, and we cant 'see' what games are running. At some point (if it doesnt happen already) they can just rig it so winning accounts play mostly other winnings accounts while at the same time casuals play casuals so edges are close to non existant and the only winner is the house. (and those lucky bastards that hit 1000x and quit while ahead)

From January 1st-31st I will be attempting to play +10k spins and have a +8% ev roi. If anyone is interested in following this here is my pgc link http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17.../#post45680015

The more the games fill up with regs the more the true variance of these will come out. Aside from that, early adaptors probably had their fun with them, but contrary to the argument of which Hypers got more profitable over time (at least ROI wise) that you brought up with in the past, the simple fact that these cannot be tableselected, and never will, even as some people are cooking something up, wont happen. So there goes a big chunk of profitability even with more regs pouring in.

But all in all, Hypers HU compared to 1 year before are literally dead so people are already transitioning...

Well yea, a lot of people are playing spin and gos instead of hyper husngs. If you combine the player pools, there's far more people playing today than ever (and that's pretty fair bc spin and gos are easily closest to hypers in terms of strategy).

Everyone used to say the games were dead or dying even as they were growing.

But sure, as the most successful players hid their success over the last two years from clueless people and the regs always knew how successful they are, combined with spin and gos taking away a lot of players, yes, hyper husngs specifically have contracted some.

Like I said, regs will follow the action/money. It's happened many times in the other HUSNG variants, you just have to roll with the changes. If the changes end up being little to no profit, then that is another story. That has not been the case thus far (and change has brought more profit each time in the past... future remains to be seen).

It depends from what standpoint in time you are looking at change. If you only look at the husng history than this is probably true. If you look at those 6max hyper grinders i think they would disagree UNLESS you were willing to ever increase your workload. Then yeah you might have and still enjoy future gains (in total winnings that is.)

if you do this you'll kill the games!!!

gl tho

They are already unbeatable

The $1M game doesn't have long left to show its face

It will be running through January as well, so hopefully we will see some in the New Year, if not before.

Thanks,
Baard

Anyone willing to discuss strat on Spins pm me.
I play 30s with WR > 37% (4k games so far).

Happy new year!

Care to say how many $5 sp&gos have already popped off? I feel like yall are running good on it not hitting

I've just lost 90k spin. It could be perfect ending of 2014.

Interested as well in how many launch per month.

Will there be higher stakes added anytime soon?
100s+ would be nice!

shut uuuupppp

At least a comment by stars would be nice - be it either way. Some people actually play them and might want to plan ahead...

We don't currently have any concrete plans to expand the offering, but that does not mean that changes can be made in the future.

If we feel that a higher buyin will run sufficiently often, a decision to add can be made on short notice.

Thanks,
Baard

By FAR more urgent to implement deals for high multipliers.

Cheers

how bout you remove 1% of rake, add 3x 1,000xs, per 100k games and put the rest in 6x multipliers

theres a small small chance fish will realize that 1/100,000 is not very many...

Id add another 1% rake and change max price for $30 from 90k to 900k

make it 5% and 1m

the more rake the better

You think Spin&Gos are the only reason for the collapse of Husngs? By removing the casual grinder/shottaker with your cartels you are more than responsible for cutting away a big chunk of traffic yourself. Now all you have left is yourself and some fish, and they dont seem to be too thrilled to get snapsat by the same opponents over and over again.

FTP seems to be doing okay with their 50s from the start...

Its funny how stars reps still try and make themselves look usefull on 2+2. Bless them.

ill 4b to 7% rake and 1.5m