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12-05-2014 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TaiwanUP
Mini-brag post. I just finished my 15 $5 Spin-N-Go's for the "Challenges" promotion. I ran pretty good and played well but most of all, the players were just atrocious. I'm a pure omaha player so I don't know much bout 2-card games and this type of format. But the players, man they were dumb. Are they always this bad at the $5's? Or is it just extra fishy now cause of the Challenges promotion?

I won a few 6x and 4x multipliers. Look at that ROI lol.
Yeah like ROI actually means something ...

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12-05-2014 , 04:59 PM
You get it in with FH with one card to come, hit quads on the river and end up with 3rd best hand. Sigh. ($30 buyin - $180 prizepool)

PokerStars - $28.50+$1.50|15/30 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 495 (VPIP: 56.76, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 38)
SB: 625 (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
Hero (BB): 380

SB posts SB 15, Hero posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 45) Hero has J T

BTN raises to 60, SB calls 45, Hero calls 30

Flop: (180, 3 players) T T Q
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 90, SB calls 90, Hero calls 90

Turn: (450, 3 players) J
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 225, SB raises to 450, Hero calls 230 and is all-in, BTN calls 120 and is all-in

River: (1,370, 3 players) T

SB shows K A (Royal Flush)
Main Pot [1,140]: (Pre 49%, Flop 3%, Turn 2%)
Side Pot#1 [230]: (Pre 65%, Flop 81%, Turn 100%)

BTN shows 9 8 (Straight Flush, Queen High)
Main Pot [1,140]: (Pre 21%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [230]: (Pre 35%, Flop 19%, Turn 0%)

Hero shows J T (Four of a Kind, Tens)
Main Pot [1,140]: (Pre 30%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)

SB wins 1,370

Quads vs Straight flush vs Royal flush 3 handed. Beat that if you can.
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12-05-2014 , 06:18 PM
lol that graph is a thing of beauty.
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12-05-2014 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerrydo
You get it in with FH with one card to come, hit quads on the river and end up with 3rd best hand. Sigh. ($30 buyin - $180 prizepool)

PokerStars - $28.50+$1.50|15/30 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 495 (VPIP: 56.76, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 38)
SB: 625 (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
Hero (BB): 380

SB posts SB 15, Hero posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 45) Hero has J T

BTN raises to 60, SB calls 45, Hero calls 30

Flop: (180, 3 players) T T Q
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 90, SB calls 90, Hero calls 90

Turn: (450, 3 players) J
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 225, SB raises to 450, Hero calls 230 and is all-in, BTN calls 120 and is all-in

River: (1,370, 3 players) T

SB shows K A (Royal Flush)
Main Pot [1,140]: (Pre 49%, Flop 3%, Turn 2%)
Side Pot#1 [230]: (Pre 65%, Flop 81%, Turn 100%)

BTN shows 9 8 (Straight Flush, Queen High)
Main Pot [1,140]: (Pre 21%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [230]: (Pre 35%, Flop 19%, Turn 0%)

Hero shows J T (Four of a Kind, Tens)
Main Pot [1,140]: (Pre 30%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)

SB wins 1,370

Quads vs Straight flush vs Royal flush 3 handed. Beat that if you can.
sheeeeeeeet.
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12-05-2014 , 10:56 PM
did you boom it
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12-06-2014 , 04:21 AM
No, I didn't think of doing that. It would be too late now, I think.

I'll add it to Boomplayer next time it happens
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12-06-2014 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerrydo
No, I didn't think of doing that. It would be too late now, I think.

I'll add it to Boomplayer next time it happens
hope next one in 90k game.
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12-08-2014 , 03:42 AM
I have always center me ticked on stars soft (pokerstars 6). However PT4 doesnt understand where i sit and puts my statblocks on random seats. Anyone know how to fix that?
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12-09-2014 , 08:32 AM
Do you have the option 'Auto-Center me at game tables' ticked in PT4 (Configure -> Sites & Import Options -> choose Pokerstars on the left)?
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12-09-2014 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by coon74
Do you have the option 'Auto-Center me at game tables' ticked in PT4 (Configure -> Sites & Import Options -> choose Pokerstars on the left)?
That was it. TY
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12-09-2014 , 11:35 AM
any rumblings of $60s + being introduced?
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12-09-2014 , 03:25 PM
me neither
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12-10-2014 , 11:42 AM
OK, about spin and go's
Yes, I know they suck
Yes, I know the variance is huge, and that they are heavily raked

I would never play these for long term profit, but they are fun to play every now and then as a change from cash games

Heads-up is obvious, you play them like you would play in any heads-up situation. But does anyone have strategy ideas about how to play the threehanded stage of these games ? In a SIT and go, by the time you get threehanded, blinds will have risen to a point where you're under more pressure to play a hand. However, in a spin and go, you have to play a threehanded game BUT with deep stacks compared to the blinds.

Should you play a waiting game/tight until you get heads-up?
Should you apply aggression and pressure right from the start?
Hand selection?
What hands to raise with, 3-bet, move all-in with at this stage?
What hands to move all in with postflop?

I know what hands to play in raised and unraised pots in standard sit and go's, I am not sure how to adapt optimally to the different situation of threehanded play in spin and go's where the stacks are still deep.

Any advice would be great
Thanks
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12-10-2014 , 12:18 PM
Run good
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12-10-2014 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by howsitgonnaend
any rumblings of $60s + being introduced?
I'd say it's a 90%+ certainty going on what Pokerstars said about back in October. I forget how they worded it, but they said they were thinking about it. I think a reason they haven't done it yet is to not take liquidity from the sng formats where players are finishing off their SNE chase. I've been joking about it but I wouldn't be surprised to see a $333.34 buyin game as well.
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12-10-2014 , 02:05 PM
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12-12-2014 , 01:15 AM
Haha didnt the top PS guys just step down too?? So now we have a one legged drunk whose never driven before!
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12-12-2014 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by kobmish
Thank you for listening stars, rake was definitely too low in these and variance was non existent, so it makes sense to make it a touch bigger. ****ing *s.

I guess now it's time for a rep to post here that this is actually good for the games both short and long term?
Ha don't forget the necessary followup from the PS rep about how raising rake is will somehow improve our experience, what a sham!
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12-12-2014 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TaiwanUP
Mini-brag post. I just finished my 15 $5 Spin-N-Go's for the "Challenges" promotion. I ran pretty good and played well but most of all, the players were just atrocious. I'm a pure omaha player so I don't know much bout 2-card games and this type of format. But the players, man they were dumb. Are they always this bad at the $5's? Or is it just extra fishy now cause of the Challenges promotion?

I won a few 6x and 4x multipliers. Look at that ROI lol.
Hey TaiwanUP - unfortunately for me, I'm probably one of those soft players boosting your ROI. What are your recommendations for new players? Is Spin and go the best option? Is that something that you as an experienced player like playing or is the ROI not there in the long term??
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12-12-2014 , 03:10 AM
Hey guys.
So i tried grinding these spin&go's a bit this month, and have no idea where I am going.



Can i expect to ever have any profit from these? Am I running bad (i know i am in all in situations), does ev roi mean anything here.

I'm sorry if all my questions were allready answered in the thread, it's just that i don't have the time to go through 80 pages
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12-12-2014 , 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mr. mojo risin
Hey guys.
So i tried grinding these spin&go's a bit this month, and have no idea where I am going.



Can i expect to ever have any profit from these? Am I running bad (i know i am in all in situations), does ev roi mean anything here.

I'm sorry if all my questions were allready answered in the thread, it's just that i don't have the time to go through 80 pages
If you keep this pace you'll crush eventually, you have 38.5% EV ITM.
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12-12-2014 , 08:15 AM
can anyone tell me the complete formulas for ITM and ROI%.
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12-12-2014 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by xkcd
If you keep this pace you'll crush eventually, you have 38.5% EV ITM.
Note that eventually could mean years, if you play high volume. Just don`t play Spin and goes if you are not ready to play breakeven or losing poker for several years.
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12-12-2014 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by xkcd
If you keep this pace you'll crush eventually, you have 38.5% EV ITM.
38.3 given 75 chips per game

which is almost exactly an 8% roi at the 3s, a 7% roi at the 1/5s but the 7% at the 5s assumes he will play long enough to play multiple million spins


so anyways hes "crushing" and hes down 70bi
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12-12-2014 , 12:20 PM
Hello,

I just want to inform you all that we are planning to discontinue the client PokerStars 6 early next year. My colleague, Keith has posted a Q&A post here, which should answer some of your questions, but apart from that I am also interested in hearing further feedback from you.

We particularly want to hear about features that you now use in PS6 that you feel are missing in PS7, and which might make the transition to PS7 a negative experience for you. I am not thinking about problems with 3rd party software, but maybe there is functionality in PS6 that we, in your opinion, have underestimated the importance of.

Thanks,
Baard
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