I agree as I have tilted badly when playing spins then piss away another 20 BI.

I was proud I walked away after 12 games after having 1 outers hit and villains' doing runner runner. Tonight was way better when that doesn't happen.

night before.

This. Especially new players seems to have pretty much zero understanding how massive the variance is. You could be playing close to flawless push fold fe and still be getting rekt running to villains top range constantly over thousands of games.

That is the part I am working on. I have tilted off another 20BI just getting pissed off and pushing to get even. I rarely do it anywhere else, so I don't understand why I do it in poker except it is much easier to do. When I bet sports, you don't have another game to immediately bet to try and get even after a last minute goal screws your bet. There's always another table, tourney or spin waiting in poker.

Poker can be very tough on the mindset, especially the more variance intensive formats. One thing that is key to learn early on in your journey is, regardless of your skill at the tables, variance will still hit and the mental fortitude you can bring to the tables during these periods is incredibly important.

If every time you face variance, downswing or some negative mental occurrences within your game, they cost 20 bi's, then over the course of the year etc, this is incredibly expensive and also counter productive

Work on methods to recognise when you are triggered, tilt doesn't have to be open jamming 72o for 25bb, it can be little things, over calling, changing up your normal play style, barelling turns when you normally wouldn't etc, C-betting incorrect structures. The list can be endless and effects individuals in different ways.

Best of luck for your future grind buddy, GL @ the tables

At high blind levels I have a lot of trouble with potential drawing hands that would be easy if you have 25 BB. An example is here Looking for some advice on how to play. Villian is a good player who would limp a lot. By the turn I am thinking I have maybe 33% equity but I know I will probably face an all in at that point if I call then checked the river miss.

PokerStars - 50/100 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 6.9 BB
SB: 8.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 6

SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (2 BB, 2 players) 7 K 8
Hero checks, SB bets 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Turn: (4 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, SB bets 2 BB, fold

SB wins 4 BB

villains LCB is likely very high.
There is some PPs like 88-AA and couple suited kings in his limp range range that shallow but i think its reasonable to chk raise here since most other kings are pre AI

DB perhaps is also ok here OTF

but not sure at all. waiting what smarter guys can share

Check raise and call it off or check jam with your hand otf. No calling with this hand. We call hands without a heart. Villain still has some Jx Qx Tx he bet folds here. We can allso check raise offsuit combos small freq and call it of. As played ott with this hand we mix call and jam. I f we had smaller heart we call like 9s6h.

Let's not turn this into a bad beat/rigged thread, there are other places for that! I will point out that I have had stretches of a few thousand games at 250s/500s where I had losing CEV. Samples of <500 games are essentially meaningless and even a 1k game sample doesn't tell you that much

Can you tell me which stakes you're playing? I remember while streaming I would have a lot of players come and ask me about their WR on PS, thinking they were winning money, but not realizing that with the really low rb % on PS (before their renovated RB system went live) that they were still losing EV post rb related equity.

I don't ever look at winning %; only statistic that I look at is the ev chips per game won.

Fwiw can reach out to me regarding some extras on Party Poker and I'm happy to help give you the complete information

Can consider c/jamming flop, especially if hes someone that tends to overcbet otf in hu limped pots although he should be betting fairly aggressively on this board (~60% bet id say). Ott really depends on his barreling frequencies, is a c/jam if hes barreling enough and if not, think we have to call holding a heart in our hand

If the heart was the 6 instead of the 9, would that change it to a fold? Or is it just any heart that might be good?

Not folding with a heart. We still have ~37% with 6h against his range. And fwiw with that limp, board and our hand it's unlikely villain has any hearts himself.

Does anyone know how the algortim of the exclusive poker challenge works. For a year I always had the highest challenge (40000points for 3200 dollar) but the last two months I get a few low challenge.

Definitely right. Notwithstanding the tone and tenor of my posts I don't often get tilted. I've worked at calming myself down after bad beats - I actually find them kind of funny, especially the worst of them. It is gonna happen - frequently. God, I just had a game where my h/u opponent was sitting out. I got him down to .5bb when he beat me 6x in a row while sitting out. Then he returns, gets KK 2x in a row, then bad beats my Ax and im out. What can do but laugh when you get beaten 6x in a row to an opponent who is sitting out? I think it can be good for people to hear about these bad beats...

I decided to move up to $10 games. The players are not significantly better than those at the $5 level. The two or three regulars are probably better than at the lower level but there are just as many maniacs who will call big bets on every street with bottom or middle pair. It's crazy how these people play.

be careful with such an assessment, people do these "stupid" plays a lot less than you think, what I have noticed when people run bad, confirmation bias kicks in and you think you are getting called down all the time with all the crap in the world, but in reality thats not true, I have been playing poker for a long time and trust me its very very rare to encounter true callling station who will just call down everything.
Sure there are people who call down light, but that doesnt mean they call down everything and also it doesnt mean its bad or crazy play, if you bluff everything, them calling everything is actually exploiting you.

This. It seems the sample is tiny and the calldowns might be superstrd when op doesn't rep anything or reps a narrow range. Allso since when the definition of maniac is "calls big bets with middle pair"?

That is true - but for the most part I can get enough hands against the same players to get a good idea of their play. There are also a lot of players, even at the $10 level, who will call all-in on pre-flop jams for 25bb with K10, Q9o, J7s etc. Just today I had a guy call a 20bb jam with 63s and sadly he won vs my AK. Overall my point was that I thought that moving up from $5 to $10 would find a significantly better player pool. In the end a small number of the players are better and the rest are just as wild.

I did notice that over the weekend there were a bunch of lunatic players I had never seen before. They would raise 3-5x preflop, make pot size bets on the river. I didn't really know how to handle these people. Like they raise 3x from the Btn, I call with Kjs, flop comes out 2 7 9 rainbow and after checking it back to them they would be 5bb and force met to fold. Can't do this too many times in a tournament before you run out of chips. In the end I did a combination of narrowing my range, donk betting missed flops and check raising both missed and hit flops.

Are there times or spots where you should limp in a spin and go from the button 3 handed I have adopted a raise/fold strategy in these spots unless short chipped where I might trap with a big hand hopefully. J did see a video the other day where someone said you should have a 3 handed limping strategy. 3 handed from the BU. Looking for thoughts on it.

Don't have one myself. Too oldschool one should not limp btn. Don't think it's more ev in the long run vs strd strat.

I do notice people doing that. Just wondering now how that affects SB strat. Say 16 BB if button folds I would tend to raise 98S or 109S. Would this be a better spot to just call and take the flop 3 way rather than potentially play a raised pot OOP against 2 players. I have noticed a button limp generally doesn't fold to a raise.

Might limp some hands that play well 3w yeah. Usually when a btn limps I tag him rec and jam value because like you said they are not usually folding that depth. If they are regs then they probably have run own sims and created a btn limp strat 3w. Just need to take notes what are they using for that and go from there.

Its good when BTN limps.
You can see a lot of flops then with wider range that you would not see otherwise when BU would open.

If he lights up green on my screen that means I have already tagged him as a bu limper. I do put what they will limp with in my notes if I find out. I tend to see a lot of small suited connectors and AX or AxS as well typically small kickers.

Had a crappy day, no matter how I got my money in, it just went on fire. AA vs AJ off flop was JJ9 to go from a 90% favorite to looking for my one outter. This was my bright point. Wish I had copied the chat from this guy except I would probably get a warning or ban because he was steaming. Sometimes it's the little things that gotta make you smile. BTW 3X BB was his standard opening raise

PokerStars - 20/40 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 21.62 BB
Hero (BB): 15.87 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 9

SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 9 7 Q
Hero checks, SB bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 12.87 BB and is all-in, SB calls 6.87 BB

Turn: (31.75 BB, 2 players) 2

River: (31.75 BB, 2 players) 6

Hero shows Q 9 (Two Pair, Queens and Nines)
(Pre 16%, Flop 71%, Turn 82%)
SB shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 84%, Flop 29%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins 31.75 BB