Flat, 3b NAI/call reshove, and 3b shove are all fine with KQs here and figure to have similar EV. Shove avoids post-flop play so it can be a way to make your life simpler. In this specific case it's possible that flatting could induce BB to shove extra crazy wide (which would be great for you).

3B NAI combined with solid play in 3b pots might allow for more edge vs BU in some situations (but likely not in this one). Given stacks it will function extremely similarly to a 3b shove anyways though.

Thanks for the replies. I flatted thinking the BB would shove a lot. BB shoved, Btn folded and I called. I wasn't sure if flatting was getting a bit too fancy.

Yatahay Network - 20/40 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 19.25 BB
BTN: 10 BB
Hero (SB): 8.25 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 9

BTN calls 1 BB, Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (3 BB, 3 players) 5 9 5
Hero?

This is a $2 and both villains are not doing anything crazy, but don't seem like regs and there has been a fair bit of checking pre and post flop. I think pre is ok (let me know if not!) but I am lost on the flop.

Thanks for any help!

what is it that makes this hand so troubling for you?

I can see jamming to either get it in or get everyone to fold. Part of me wants to try a check-raise but would hate for it to check through. Another part of me wants to donk and hope for a caller and then jamming the turn.

just bet when u have a hand.

what are some of the most used tools for spins study.
i tried first time today with GtoWizard and really enjoyed playing vs gto

i would pretty much want that function only, to drill vs gto.

any more similar programs out ther3?

Lucid pure etc there are several programs just check the 2+2 software section fe.

thanks .

Pure GTO seems nice, started 7day trial.
after that i will try lucid also and then have decision since
Two above in addition to simple gto, instagto and gto wizard.

but i have a good feeling about PureGTO

What happened to pokerstars leaderboards?

Have heard good things about GTOWizard but never used it myself. I have a lot of my own sims but when I use one of the commercial programs, I mostly use Spinwize. Have heard good things about InstaGTO but never bothered to try it out. Spinwize had at least a 5 day full function free trial, not sure aboutothers.

Lucid last I checked I wasnt really pleased w the ranges; long time friends w the developer and have bitched at him multiple times to fix that **** but he hasnt

Looks like they GG'd them for now as I also don't see them. I checked the page on PS and first thing in the T&C is
Terms & Conditions
This promotion runs December 1, 2021 until January 16, 2022.
https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/pro...leader-boards/

someone asked about them in the discord and they are suppoused to be back.

Hello, I bought PT4 yesterday to analysis my spin and go stats. How can I interpretate those numbers? Can some reg help me?

Thank you so much guys!

$50 flash



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6% rake at 25s = 18cev be pre rb, 5% at 50s is 15cev be pre rb. With 65% rb your profitable in both samples.

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Hello everyone, have been playing some spins flash lately for the stars rakeback challenge lately.
I was wondering how to estimate an expected ROI based on chipEV. Rake is 7%, so I calculated: 7%*300 = 21 chips to breakeven. Is this correct?
And if it is, how can I interpret a chip ev of 30/40/50 for example?
First thing I thought to do was let's say: 40/300 = 13% roi (without rake), should I just subtract 21 chips to 40? Then it would be 19/300 = 6% expected ROI.
Let me know if you know some more math

Hi All,

I'm looking for the Spin and Go Staking of husng.com but the url doesn't exist.

Can someone help me?

Thx

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Hi there

There are quite a few situations that occur fairly often and I've been postponing to post and seek for thoughts and help.


I will do now under one post but if its better for some reasons then future post can do separate.


HH will be mostly w/o reads unless stated.
so here we go

Q1: 3way BvB vs min 3bet
Question is, should i call with whole range vs min3bet that is in my SBvBB mr range?
For example 98o and 84s, both are in mr range all the way down to 10bb eff. open 2x and facing clickback.

Q2: HU super shallow what to do with a range that would be ISOS but instead facing minraise
example: 6bb eff. K4o would be ISOS vs limp but when facing mr i cannot see that call would be too good nor a 3bs

Q3: calling small cbets OOP on paired boards with 2overs and BD draws.
example: 3way SB vs BU mr pot flop TT2 facing 30% CB w/ KJs
would a raise be better in such situations?

HH1: should this be almost always fold OTR?
Winamax - 15/30 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 14 BB
Hero (BB): 36 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q T

SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (2 BB, 2 players) T 3 K
Hero checks, SB bets 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Turn: (4 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, SB checks

River: (4 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 2.63 BB, SB raises to 6.5 BB, Hero calls 3.87 BB

SB wins 17 BB


HH2: is this reasonable line?
Winamax - 20/40 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 17.15 BB
SB: 20.35 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 J

SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (2 BB, 2 players) T A 2
Hero checks, SB bets 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Turn: (4 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 3 BB, fold

Hero wins 7 BB


if i can format those questions better for future do tell me, thanks.

Id never fold first hand after betting small, you beat all Tx hands after all.
In second hand Id c/c turn too, getting raised would be so bad.

For Q1 and Q2, readless I'd assume these actions are strong, especially first time we see them. If we see it over and over we can definitely look to punish it.

Q3 I would expect most players are over cbetting these boards so we can look to punish that, but might be worth polarizing a bit more, as two overs and potentially two good BD draws is a decent amount of equity to fold if we get re-raised. We also have some showdown value and we probably see a fair few one and done cbets here which we beat.

H1 I call with those pot odds, and beating some value. Not sure about river sizing TBH but probably fine. Don't think he has too many Kx after turn check so we're definitely targeting weaker part of his range. Might be tempted to size down to get some more crying calls and maybe induce but don't know really.

H2 what's your thought process with the turn donk? What else are you donking here? I only turn donk in fairly specific spots and wouldn't donk here.

Worth leaving out results to minimise chances of biasing answers.

i donk OTT when i improve to 2pairs for example and don't expect much barrels.

I too donk mostly quite specific spots like turn pairing for one example.
Just been experimenting a bit but this spot probably is just good chk call as it is.

Hand1
How would you play?
chckback turn and bluff river or bet turn and possibly jam river or nonAI bet?
I think that checking turn and making nonAI bet OTR will not have as much success as bet plus barrel?

Winamax - 20/40 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 14.5 BB
BB: 23 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 4

Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (2 BB, 2 players) 7 6 2
BB bets 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Turn: (4 BB, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets 2.65 BB, BB calls 2.65 BB

River: (9.3 BB, 2 players) Q
BB checks, Hero ???


Hand2
delay turn on double delay
if double delay then what sizing? either 3/4 on just overbet jam?
Winamax - 15/30 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 10.83 BB
BB: 21.7 BB
BTN: 17.47 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 8

fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) J 5 T
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: (4 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BB checks

River: (4 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero??

Hand3
does someone wants to raise flop?
main question OTT, call or GII?
Winamax - 15/30 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 19.67 BB
Hero (BB): 16.67 BB
BTN: 13.67 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 2

fold, SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) Q 5 2
SB bets 1.5 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Turn: (7 BB, 2 players) T
SB bets 4 BB, Hero??

How to treat such spots vs 1bb donks?
i feel like 1 over and BD draw should be always calls? even without club?

Winamax - 10/20 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 25 BB
BB: 25 BB
Hero (BTN): 25 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 8

Hero raises to 2 BB, SB raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) T 4 7
SB bets 1 BB, Hero ??


Hand4

Winamax - 10/20 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 55.5 BB
Hero (SB): 19.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 5

Hero raises to 2 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 4 2 3
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (4 BB, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB

River: (10 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bet or not, if bet then what sizing would go?


Hand5
OTR will you chk or lead?
When we lead what sizing we want to go?

Winamax - 15/30 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 27 BB
Hero (BB): 23 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 6

SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) J 2 5
Hero checks, SB bets 1.5 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Turn: (7 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, SB bets 4.67 BB, Hero calls 4.67 BB

River: (16.33 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero??

hand 1
Id consider betting turn and river as standard line there, I just cant see anything else being better

hand4
For me its a standard triple barrel, bad flop and blanks on turn and river, as played idk, I guess I rather bet than check, but imo flop cbet is mandatory on this kind of flop and with our hand.

hand5
Id check, board is not that scary for him to not bet his value and we give all air a chance to bluff, but if you decide to bet, than its a very large bet or jam, there is zero point in betting small, if you donk like 1/2 pot you are actually doing a huge favor for villain

thanks.

about hand5 i sure dont look to bet there small on half psb.
i do tho like to lead 75%psb close to bot depending on eff. stacks because i see often that players are scared to go for thin value even with TPTK when boards on the river has multiple draws completed
in addition i feel like pool is less likely to triple barrel bluff in general. but dno about that.