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Old 05-22-2019, 03:21 AM   #7051
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Is there any point in analyzing bustout hand chip EV vs. chips won?

Looking at my last two days, 266 bustout hands:
Actual chips: -110,084
ChipEV: -15,572

Now I know Actual chips will be negative in bustout hands, but this seems like a huge variance in just 266 hands, no? Or am I misinterpreting these numbers.

Appreciate any insight, pretty new to Spins.
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Old 05-22-2019, 03:51 AM   #7052
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

when you get it preflop in and run above ev you don't bust out

you literally filtered it to show only hands you ran below ev in
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Old 05-22-2019, 05:22 AM   #7053
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

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when you get it preflop in and run above ev you don't bust out

you literally filtered it to show only hands you ran below ev in
But bustout hands include hands that I got in bad as well, ex. JJ vs KK, it would drag down the chipEV closer to the actual chips right?

So bustout hands show hands I went < EV and at EV (in the example above, or AJ vs. AK and I lose with AJ)?
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Old 05-22-2019, 06:05 AM   #7054
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u get it in with JJ vs KK for 1k chips and have 20% equity

your ev is -300 chips
your actual result is always -500 chips (because u filtered out the times that you won, because those aren't bustout hands)

u get it in with KK vs JJ for 1k chips and have 80% equity

your ev is +300 chips
your actual result is always -500 chips
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:48 PM   #7055
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

226hands is nothing,its ok for that difference in ev and actual. its also count the spot when u fe call all-in ott with 96% to win, get +ev, but opp catch his hand and u get - actual
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:11 PM   #7056
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

No, that difference in ev and actual is not ok. Its like 100k chips or 200 buyins below ev in 226 hands.

It's filtered for bustout meaning only hands he lost. Meaning he will literally never run above ev in those hands.
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Old 05-26-2019, 01:35 AM   #7057
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Hello everyone,

I would like to ask how can I get in touch with somebody from Partypoker if I think someone is playing Spins using unfair software?

Write me in PM.

Thanks
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Old 05-30-2019, 03:26 PM   #7058
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Is there a list of countries that can play on winamax? Have they added new countries to the list recently? It seems flooded with new regs with a super low game count on sharkscope...
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:29 PM   #7059
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Maybe the regs have changed their screennames mostly around the same time by accident.

Winamax used to be open to EU/EEA bank account owners only (and some savvy Russians were setting up bank accounts in Latvia etc. specifically to access French sites), but last year, this restriction was lifted - it became possible to submit screenshots from Skrill / Neteller for verification instead of bank statements.

The Winamax.es launch was in July 2018.

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Old 05-31-2019, 12:14 AM   #7060
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Old 05-31-2019, 11:10 AM   #7061
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Having a horrible day with the spins on partypoker. Ive lost almost 70% of the games, the vast majority while in heads up. The big problem I am running into is guys going all-in pretty much all the time while heads up while I have a massive stack.

This is one problem I do not know how to deal with...

I begin Heads Up with 1000 or so chips so my opponent has about 500. Instantly the short stack just starts going All-In. Every hand he goes all-in and I am just waiting to get a hand to jam him with... but I am getting junk after junk...nothing but 5-3 off, 6-2 off, 8-2 off...so I can't call. After about 7 or 8 instances of this my chip leads has diminished from 500 to about 200. Then I get KK, push him all in...he folds...then I get AK go all in, he calls with A6 and cracks me. Now my stack is down 200, blinds are high and I get decimated.

My question, which I am sure there is no real answer to, is how do you combat a guy who when short staked just goes all in with everything while you get trash? I mean, if I just say screw it and push all-in with junk I may pick the time when he has pockets or something. It is a risk and reward factor...far more risk on my side compared to the potential reward on his.

On top of all of that the normal stuff is happening...AA cracked twice in a row by Q-8 offsuit then by Q-2 (trip 2s), KK killed by A-6, QQ by Q6 ofsuit...on top of that I've had 3 all in shoves for the win killed by opponent catching 4 card straights on the board. C'est la vie for this game.

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Old 05-31-2019, 11:35 AM   #7062
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

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Is there a list of countries that can play on winamax? Have they added new countries to the list recently? It seems flooded with new regs with a super low game count on sharkscope...
on winamax you can change you nickname twice a year, just sayin...
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Old 05-31-2019, 02:30 PM   #7063
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Yup, worst day at this ever. I am no 4 wins in 25 games. All but 4 have been defeats while heads up and in all but 5 of them I had a massive chip lead at one time. I understand the variance and all that crap. I assume I am playing ok since I am getting HU with chips and following the Nash chart for shoves but nothing I do works. Same story every time...get the opponent down below 9BB, go all in and get destroyed.

I will say that I started with like $30 in my account and i've been at this all day and, as bad as my day has been at the spins I still have like $12. No...$12 is not my bankroll!

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Old 05-31-2019, 02:45 PM   #7064
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on winamax you can change you nickname twice a year, just sayin...
I didnt know that.. thanks. How do you do that? Is there an option or do you have to mail support or smth?
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Old 05-31-2019, 07:39 PM   #7065
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Go to the winamax website. Login. Click Nickname+Avatar upper right. Go to Account Settings.
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Old 06-11-2019, 11:07 AM   #7066
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

HI Guys!

Did you noticed on Winamaxfr they changed the probability of multiplier on spin?
What dou you think how it going to change the variance for gamers without ev deal? What is going to be the consequenses of this changes?

thanks
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Old 06-13-2019, 04:46 PM   #7067
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Do you guys think the time of year influences the difficulty of the field? I remember that in the final months of last year the field seemed to be weaker than normal
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Old 06-14-2019, 01:17 PM   #7068
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Probably so, yes. There are trends such as more people playing in Oct-March.

There used to be a ton of regs grinding end of year when supernova elite was a thing on Stars. I'm sure there are similar patterns these days for different games.

WSOP would often have an impact as well.
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Old 06-15-2019, 05:33 PM   #7069
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Hi anybody with any ideas on this, I won a E162 satty ticket in the E5 spins for EPT Madrid. The satty is a live tourney though I think and I can't go. It's tomorrow night. Seems really harsh to advertise main event tickets as a prize and not be clear that so much value are satty tickets that need to be used live and so soon.
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:38 PM   #7070
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Somehow I ended up here, poker is a great game.
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:11 PM   #7071
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All hail the legend!

How are you doing nowadays?
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Old Yesterday, 01:18 AM   #7072
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

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HI Guys!

Did you noticed on Winamaxfr they changed the probability of multiplier on spin?
What dou you think how it going to change the variance for gamers without ev deal? What is going to be the consequenses of this changes?

thanks
Nothing changed in terms of variance, if you play a little bit with Swong you will see that after 5k games there is about 1%more of a chance that you go broke compared to the old system, so variance got up, but not by much.
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