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Old 08-10-2018, 10:54 PM   #6751
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

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Back in the day we could just sharkscope it to see
I'd be interested in seeing your spin&go and HU winrate across the different stakes and speeds, if you don't mind.
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:32 AM   #6752
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No stable owners will post their numbers. It's really -EV, actually just a negative freeroll for their wallet if you think about it.
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Old 08-11-2018, 08:50 AM   #6753
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You have to remember that most ppl posting high cEV graphs from those levels are:

1) Cherry picking
2) Ran very hot last stretches
3) Posting prob the last tournament they ever play at those stakes since they will move up

So in reality you never find out what is achievable long term best since this will never be tested. No answer in a forum here will be very helpful in determining these numbers.

100 spins and 60s spins graphs will be more accurate for sure- since the long term is tested here by a lot of regs, and there are a lot of graphs. But again- almost every single player that posts graphs has incentive to represent a higher winrate long term.

Big stables with good graphs pretty much use the guys at highstakes as advertising to get sign ups. And if they have enough players at high stakes (say 10 players with 30cEV long term)- they will always produce very good graphs on a monthly basis due to variance and obviously no reason to post losing month graphs.

True, long term, consistent results at 100s are very rarely posted, and pretty much only done so by someone trying to sell coaching.

It's a dog eat dog business.
Thanks dude, I appreciate it.

I was just looking for some numbers for what max could be achievable at this stakes. If I remember well acbarone said itt that 100+ chips ev (maybe 120) for 15s was achievable so I am gonna go with this numbers for endboss level.
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Old 08-11-2018, 09:27 AM   #6754
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acbarone was an endboss in spins for sure.

Also he obviously posted most of his graph and isn't involved with any stable- his guess is fairly decent, though he hasn't played 15s himself in the last 3 years.

What you should be aiming at 15s is not 100cEV, but to get to 60+ and understand what you are doing, then try to move up.
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Old 08-11-2018, 11:06 AM   #6755
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I am over 100 ev chips per game at 7s 1.3k games (I know lol sample size) but I guess that I already understand what I am doing. Last question, how much should I expect my winrate to drop from 7s to 15s, what do you think watergun7, 20% drop?
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Old 08-11-2018, 01:09 PM   #6756
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

i have a follow-up question: should the attainable hourly become very similar because of the existence of stables? the main obstacle in moving up is bankroll and stables can move their players up without having to build a roll. so will there eventually be only a relatively small difference in what you can make at 100s and at 15s?
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Old 08-11-2018, 05:06 PM   #6757
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I am over 100 ev chips per game at 7s 1.3k games (I know lol sample size) but I guess that I already understand what I am doing. Last question, how much should I expect my winrate to drop from 7s to 15s, what do you think watergun7, 20% drop?
100ev is sick. Do you single table?
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Old 08-11-2018, 06:16 PM   #6758
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6 tabling
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Old 08-11-2018, 06:31 PM   #6759
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6 tabling
how do you even? Just move to $500s already, crush everyone, enjoy the spoils, gl hf
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:09 PM   #6760
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I wanna move up where they respect my raises so I am waiting for the $1ks spin and go
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:17 PM   #6761
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I wanna move up where they respect my raises so I am waiting for the $1ks spin and go
Higher stakes don't respect your raises. They know the likelihood you have it or you don't and how you might act when they show aggression or whatever plays they spam to win against you.

Tl;dr; higher stakes respect your raises less than in $7s, not kidding.

While $500s are mostly available, I think $1000s are situational. Should run on most Sundays, tho', so tomorrow just might be your lucky day!
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:33 PM   #6762
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I am over 100 ev chips per game at 7s 1.3k games (I know lol sample size) but I guess that I already understand what I am doing. Last question, how much should I expect my winrate to drop from 7s to 15s, what do you think watergun7, 20% drop?
I don't get this because you are clearly good at the stakes even the sample size proves taht but it also prove you're running like jesus and on top of that why would you try anything but the stake above and see how things happen as that's the best result. The nut worst thing you can do is think you're god and play much higher.
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:34 PM   #6763
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You're clearly just a troll you either have someone ITK backing an supporing you and they're just told you to try and get their games more juicy whilst you never having to play them.

wp I suppose.

edit - no proof too, why am I not exploiting idiots IRL. My bigges leak. I'll delete this post for 1k paypal.
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:39 AM   #6764
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:59 AM   #6765
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So this is another truth about poker forums.

Vast majority of people asking about achievable winrates are doing so to brag. Nothing wrong with this, but there's very little honest discussion.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:17 PM   #6766
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You're clearly just a troll you either have someone ITK backing an supporing you and they're just told you to try and get their games more juicy whilst you never having to play them.

wp I suppose.

edit - no proof too, why am I not exploiting idiots IRL. My bigges leak. I'll delete this post for 1k paypal.
The "waiting for $1ks spin and go to move up there" was just a joke.
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Old 08-12-2018, 05:32 PM   #6767
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So this is another truth about poker forums.

Vast majority of people asking about achievable winrates are doing so to brag. Nothing wrong with this, but there's very little honest discussion.
I just want to know what the upper limit for winrate is, to see how I compare.
I had 53% at 3.5$ hypers HU for example. I don't know what percentile I'm in. But I wasn't happy.
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:29 AM   #6768
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Who got banned?
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Old 08-15-2018, 05:34 PM   #6769
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yeah thats the question i wanna know too pakichu i cant think who it could be at 100s, i think i know the 60s name
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Old 08-16-2018, 09:30 AM   #6770
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name names.. don't be shy! Or pm me I'm always curious
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:11 PM   #6771
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https://gyazo.com/9f9955e00ee70a4583fb6c71daa94fd7

turns out the guy banned is Flawless432, i reported him a while back and he was unfrozen but then frozen again and i got this reply to my report today

ignore the post above, he isnt banned just being investigated and asked me to remove name but i cant edit my post
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Old 08-17-2018, 01:00 PM   #6772
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Here for the refunds, will stay for the 'end boss' compliments

Got $770 from Stars, no info on why except the standard email. Haven't played Spins on PS since 2017 so I'm guessing that the cheating occurred a while back. Anyone else get refunds/have potential info?

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PokerStars has become aware of a situation involving a violation of our Terms of Service, to the potential detriment of other players. You participated in games that were under consideration in this case and as a result you may have been adversely affected.

In a case such as this it is our policy to confiscate the balances of the offender(s) and for PokerStars to add funds where appropriate. This compensation pool is then distributed to players potentially affected in as fair a way as possible.
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Old 08-17-2018, 02:22 PM   #6773
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Here for the refunds, will stay for the 'end boss' compliments

Got $770 from Stars, no info on why except the standard email. Haven't played Spins on PS since 2017 so I'm guessing that the cheating occurred a while back. Anyone else get refunds/have potential info?
i'm a 100s reg and got a refund. no clue from what date it is since I never stopped playing them except for the last few weeks
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Old Yesterday, 04:36 PM   #6774
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Here for the refunds, will stay for the 'end boss' compliments

Got $770 from Stars, no info on why except the standard email. Haven't played Spins on PS since 2017 so I'm guessing that the cheating occurred a while back. Anyone else get refunds/have potential info?
interesting that you got a refund, while you haven't played in ages, who's been missing?
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