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Old 05-13-2018, 12:16 AM   #6651
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

with this software its clear he had no problem cheating 6 figures of equity from his bettors, what else could he have done? Doubt any escrow went thru all 20,000 games. he was getting crushed in the first week of the challenge and then had a legendary turn around

Who was spin4play before this prop bet anyway? Did he have a track record of someone who could play at such a high level

Looking like Spin4play was the only person to end up learning something from bighusla.

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Old 05-13-2018, 08:21 AM   #6652
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I don't really know why i'm replying since the ban is "irreversible". I guess I dont deserve words to dirty my name. Yes, I have been banned, but for very different reasons than the exposed. In my case, It has been because of a PS lobby "bug" and the incoherence and unprofessionality of pokerstars support. The reality is as follows: I try to log in and then this window comes, which invite me to switch from .EU to .COM because of my location (Andorra is out of EU).



I thought it was strange but at the same time felt "excited" because of the oportunity of begining under a new nanme. I also thought that to create a new account shouldnt really be necessary, but I got the invitation from the lobby to it and the willing to do, because, lets be honest, who wouldnt take an opportunity to restart with a new image if possible??

Before that, I exchanged some emails with PS support to make every step clear. They clearly confirm to me that what i was doing was OK, on email 3! "I created a new account, following the instructions under the nickname X, is it all right? - Yes, I tell thats right..."
Here is the dialogue, from bottom to top (Spanish).



After asking them about swapping the founds from one accountto the other, I got no answer and after 2 days a receive an email confirming that my games privileges had been revoqued forever. Truly wtf


This will be my last message here since I cant win something by the opposite and I dont have to prove anything.
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Old 05-13-2018, 01:57 PM   #6653
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That sucks Fiora. I'm sorry if I implied that you were in the same boat as Akis and Spin4Play. I did not have any details, I only knew you got banned.

I assume you can't have both an .EU and .COM account (because you play in the same player-pool). But that's not what support said in those e-mails. It seems overly harsh to get a life-time ban for something that is at least partly pokerstars support fault.
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Old 05-14-2018, 12:53 AM   #6654
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yea that is ridiculous, im glad you decided to defend your name with a bit of proof atleast, i never thought any of your play was suspicious at all so was pretty shocked to hear you got banned but did think it was possible you sold your account to akis or something....

seems crazy that they say its irreversible as i know a story of a guy banned for a very serious thing that only got a 3 year ban, you shouldnt stop fighting this
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Old 05-14-2018, 01:34 AM   #6655
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The people getting caught for this stuff probably shouldn't travel to the UK where enforcement mechanisms exist...
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Old 05-14-2018, 02:10 AM   #6656
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The people getting caught for this stuff probably shouldn't travel to the UK where enforcement mechanisms exist...
how do you mean?
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Old 05-14-2018, 04:36 PM   #6657
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I mean, the UK seems like the only jurisidiction willing to prosecute frauds that are perpetrated in the online gambling space. If they want to make an example of bad behavior in this arena, pretty sure they can put together a case or two.

Offering the sale of cheating devices to UK residents to use against other punters in the online poker space, defrauding other bettors in a contest, etc. (My lawyer skills are USA-based and verrryyyy rusty as to specifics of statues that could be used, etc.)

They would have to be prompted, and there would have to be a will to follow through. If this were the US & Nevada, it'd be game over.
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Old 05-14-2018, 06:26 PM   #6658
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

It seems like the right environment for an example prosecution too. This stuff has only grown in scope and quality.
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Old 05-18-2018, 04:22 PM   #6659
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Regular Ev = {(500 + Cev)/1500 *(1 - 0.05)*3-1} * Volume * BI

Can someone please explain this formula above.

I want to know how much I win in a single tournament with Cev60 with 5% rake .
I don't get meaning of some of number above . Thanks
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Old 05-18-2018, 05:02 PM   #6660
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

just plug in your 60cEV: EV= 0.064 * BI
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:59 PM   #6661
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just plug in your 60cEV: EV= 0.064 * BI
Thanks , but how did you get to 0.064 for 60Cev ? so how do I calculate it if Cev is 50 for example ? what is a relation between this two number .
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Old 05-18-2018, 10:29 PM   #6662
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just plug in your 60cEV: EV= 0.064 * BI
Do you know what 3 and 1 at the end stand for ?
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Old 05-19-2018, 05:53 AM   #6663
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Do you know what 3 and 1 at the end stand for ?
3 times buy-in minus rake for the winner, substract 1 buy-in that you paid.
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:13 PM   #6664
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Hello Martijn,

Thank you for your email. It was escalated to me as a senior member of Stars Game Integrity Team.

We are aware of the 2+2 post that you mention (which we’d like to note includes an old screenshot, featuring software that has been dealt with).
It is against our rules to attempt to manipulate the seating system when playing Spin&Gos.

We can confirm that we have taken technical measures to ensure that programs such as the one highlighted in the 2+2 thread can’t function. We can further confirm that we monitor our Spin&Go games, proactively looking for players or groups of players who may be attempting to manipulate their registrations.

When we discover that players are breaking this rule, then the appropriate action (inclusive of bans and seizure of funds) is and has been taken.

We are committed to protecting the integrity of the game.

Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to let us know.

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Can you please confirm that you also monitor players who are in this stable and others where there is strong suspicion ?

I think monitoring the amount of games rec vs reg , or even the use of forbiden software is easy but the idea i have is that you always do things a bit late.

Doing proactive monitorization (im sure you have good minds in SGI)is much better and delivers results much fasterand will increase your profits
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:21 PM   #6665
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That sucks Fiora. I'm sorry if I implied that you were in the same boat as Akis and Spin4Play. I did not have any details, I only knew you got banned.

I assume you can't have both an .EU and .COM account (because you play in the same player-pool). But that's not what support said in those e-mails. It seems overly harsh to get a life-time ban for something that is at least partly pokerstars support fault.
Im sorry but im not going to accuse the player above because i have no proof.

However im afraid i cannot believe the post+printscreen he gave
because that also can be easily forged

That bug happened to how many players in Andorra ?

Was he the only one ?

Stars would not research and investigate this issue when a player generates a ton of rake ?

I could go on...
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Old 05-23-2018, 09:21 AM   #6666
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Can anyone tell me how many Heros SNG can i load per hour if im 1-tablng at Party at the $1/$3/$5 level?
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Old 05-23-2018, 10:14 AM   #6667
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why don't you try it for an hour and report back?
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:22 PM   #6668
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Emmm duh right? I dont have money on party to try that otherwise i would had done it myself, im considering mixing my Spin&Go grind with those in party and was just wondering, but thanks.
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Old 05-24-2018, 07:23 PM   #6669
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Hey,

I just started playing spin&go game. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong or what to change in the game?

https://ibb.co/bFOWAo
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Old 05-24-2018, 08:37 PM   #6670
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Looks like you're doing good!
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Old Yesterday, 06:02 AM   #6671
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What is normal ROI on this games?
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Old Yesterday, 01:11 PM   #6672
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Good Roi in lowstakes is more than 5-6%
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Old Today, 07:05 AM   #6673
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Im sorry but im not going to accuse the player above because i have no proof.

However im afraid i cannot believe the post+printscreen he gave
because that also can be easily forged

That bug happened to how many players in Andorra ?

Was he the only one ?

Stars would not research and investigate this issue when a player generates a ton of rake ?

I could go on...
There is absolutely nothing in the printscreen.

And obv we don't have the emails exchange after the ban
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