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04-21-2018 , 05:39 PM
Same, guessing he might mean PokerTracker?
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04-21-2018 , 08:37 PM
It's a program by a popular Russian stable.

Can't confirm if true or not but I heared it was storing hands a while back so I never used it.
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04-21-2018 , 09:53 PM
A tracker that sends hands to an external server isn't automatically illegal, e.g. HM Cloud and Pokeit are legal. I also believe it's legal to calculate any monetary function based on your own hands, such as $EV for bankroll sharing or staking purposes, as long as opponents' stats aren't shared.

However, it's safer to avoid using such a program if you believe that the owners of the server are using the data from your hands in materials given to other players (e.g. population tendency analyses).
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04-21-2018 , 10:06 PM
Dont think it sends your HH unless your logged in, you can check it in your network usage panel thingy in task manager., i think
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04-21-2018 , 10:55 PM
Do people still use spinlyzer? I want to use it for personal tracking and the current opponent option, but since I formatted HDD something messed up, sent two emails to support asking for help and got no reply (I followed all the steps to restore it)
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04-22-2018 , 11:01 AM
If you don't mind giving your hh's to smart spin you can send your database to spinlyser and hope they don't use it in their stable. They have such a stellar reputation I think it's fine to trust them...
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04-23-2018 , 02:05 AM
is this a good way to play spin n gos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-IevxOH2js

This is how I play them when I do decide to play one, I have a pretty high win rate but no idea how much I've made or ROI play a few a day in down time while waiting for HU games.

sorry for the music it was just filmed on whim.
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04-24-2018 , 12:48 PM
New SCOOP Spins are live in the pokerstars client. If anyone finds a page explaining them on any of the pokerstars sub-domains post it here please. I couldn't find on .com and .bg
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04-25-2018 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by margenov
New SCOOP Spins are live in the pokerstars client. If anyone finds a page explaining them on any of the pokerstars sub-domains post it here please. I couldn't find on .com and .bg
Not even their **** support knows how to find it. It's masked so well.
They also say lowest prize should be 55$, not ticket, which worked great during the HR series. Another huge mistake nobody cares about.

https://gyazo.com/6fb6d961a856db211cea7d8acf487af5

https://www.pokerstars.com/scoop/promotions/ + click on "Win SCOOP entries in minutes with Spin & Go"
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04-25-2018 , 03:54 PM
Thanks vladxxxro

Well, you'd get too many 55$ tickets and there are not that many 55$ events.

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04-25-2018 , 04:28 PM


Seems they've changed it to tickets.
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05-06-2018 , 03:14 PM
Is there any portal to see middle ev/bb by positions, spots like it had spinlyzer?
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05-11-2018 , 06:24 AM
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05-11-2018 , 06:40 AM
what the hell is that
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05-11-2018 , 06:50 AM
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please tell me this isnt stars and its PP? i know pelatore1 plays stars tho so this doesnt look good, what stable is he in?
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05-11-2018 , 06:59 AM
patitoel 10 is a SN from pokerstars (sharkscope)

and I guess it doesnt mean that pelatore is using this software, just that he registered to table with that id
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05-11-2018 , 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by kylsonn1
patitoel 10 is a SN from pokerstars (sharkscope)

and I guess it doesnt mean that pelatore is using this software, just that he registered to table with that id
+1

could we have some info from stars is this bull**** fixed? We had some accusations that spin4play used some kind of this software and he is owner(?) of biig stable. Havent seen spin4play on tables for like 6 months so i guess he is banned.
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05-11-2018 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kylsonn1
patitoel 10 is a SN from pokerstars (sharkscope)

and I guess it doesnt mean that pelatore is using this software, just that he registered to table with that id
ah good point, this is ridiculous i hope anybody caught using it gets a straight up ban, this doesnt even deserve a warning
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05-12-2018 , 07:40 AM
Hello Martijn,

Thank you for your email. It was escalated to me as a senior member of Stars Game Integrity Team.

We are aware of the 2+2 post that you mention (which we’d like to note includes an old screenshot, featuring software that has been dealt with).
It is against our rules to attempt to manipulate the seating system when playing Spin&Gos.

We can confirm that we have taken technical measures to ensure that programs such as the one highlighted in the 2+2 thread can’t function. We can further confirm that we monitor our Spin&Go games, proactively looking for players or groups of players who may be attempting to manipulate their registrations.

When we discover that players are breaking this rule, then the appropriate action (inclusive of bans and seizure of funds) is and has been taken.

We are committed to protecting the integrity of the game.

Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to let us know.

Regards,

Johnny
Stars Game Integrity
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05-12-2018 , 10:24 AM
Got the same mail. I also asked them for spin4play which I expected won't be answered and it wasn't. This means that spin4play pretty much 100% used this. Become a legend!
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05-12-2018 , 02:28 PM
edit:// not my business actually, sorry

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05-12-2018 , 04:19 PM
It's a bit disgusting that spin4play leads a huge stable, w/ the help of pokerstrategy, while being (allegedly) banned from stars for cheating.

Perhaps he thought that what he was doing was 'technically' ok according to T&C. But I can't see how you can even make the argument that it is 'fair-play'.

Weird so many guys I had some respect for their game turned out (alleged) cheaters, Akis, Spin4Play, now most recently Fi0ra too?

Thanks to the guys who put in effort to track and report this!

- Taroxus
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05-12-2018 , 05:23 PM
What about Fi0ra, wasn't he from Smart Spin?

As for spin4play, if this is true and he used that program, is banned for cheating etc shouldn't that be the end of his lil' stable? I think it would be good for somebody who has some more info on this to start a thread in pokerstrategy to discuss this and for spin4play to be forced to answer these allegations that arouse in the community, perhaps he can prove otherwise after all. Maybe we should gather all the known information here, and start a thread in pokerstrategy, what do you guys think?

All these unanswered accusations and talks in the community look too serious to be just bull**** that don't deserve his attention and time to respond to.
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05-12-2018 , 10:49 PM
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ching-1668208/

Feel free to ask here. I am sure they'll be thrilled to answer you.

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Perhaps he thought that what he was doing was 'technically' ok according to T&C.
There is no way he thought what he did was fine, when he had (if I am not wrong) 6 figure bet for his results and his results are direct function of the games he registers in.
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05-13-2018 , 12:16 AM
with this software its clear he had no problem cheating 6 figures of equity from his bettors, what else could he have done? Doubt any escrow went thru all 20,000 games. he was getting crushed in the first week of the challenge and then had a legendary turn around

Who was spin4play before this prop bet anyway? Did he have a track record of someone who could play at such a high level

Looking like Spin4play was the only person to end up learning something from bighusla.

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