ty bro, now i know that i am not cheater in your eyes

They do use charts in live poker even note taking but NOT during a hand just between them.

during the hand you cant use any mobile device. But not sure if i come with paper book.

lol ive never seen someone use a piece of paper with notes on it at poker table, in 8 years.

and no mobile during the hand so, its not the same as actively using chart.

It happened in some stream (WSOP?) and they say he can't use charts during hand, but can look between

There are too many grey areas regarding what is allowed or not, which leaves the players who follow everything strictly at a disadvantage to majority of others who use charts, forbidden features in Hand2Note, tracking sites, bought or shared hands and whatever else you can think of. For example, reading the ToS i'm under the impression that using Sharkscope to check out opponents while playing is forbidden, yet here is a clip of Pokerstars Pro Lex Veldhuis doing it while playing:
https://clips.twitch.tv/ColdbloodedRockyDonutPJSalt

Now what, i think i should start using those sites too. How can they ban me, will they ban Lex too?

I have a question regarding $EV and All-in Adj BB/100 .
Basically some game when I play $30s , my winning in EV would be $57 ,no matter how much I win or even lose that game.
I am wondering how PT4 calculate this ? is any way I could calculate my $EV for a single game myself , so I could understand the logic behind it ?
I checked for example when I get in 1st H AKs vs 22 and lost ,, I lose like 2/3$ if I am not mistaken , however in Equilibrium they are TOO close ,like 49.89 vs 50.11 , so how am I losing 10% of my BI with that odds ?

You're mistaken, you shouldn't lose that much. However, rake is a thing.

The logic is that you map chips tp $$.

So 500 chips = ($30-Rake) = $28.2 -> 1 chip = $0.0564

To get your $EV you have to add
1) Rake: -$1.8
2) Adjusted chips won * $0.0564

e.g. 49.89 vs 50.11
adjusted chips = 49.89*(1000) - 500 = -1.1 chips -> -$0.062
--> EV for that game: -$1.862

Sharkscoping opponents is for sure allowed. Everybody does it since 10 years ago

^ Yes, I'm not sure where the confusion would come up with that. They have opt in/opt out systems for years created and/or approved by Stars.

Ok, that's good to know, i was under the impression that it's also considered datamining site or at least getting information about games i did not participate in. Judging from Pokerstars' response they gave me long time ago when i asked about this matter, i still think that it seems like a violation, but i guess I'm the fool for not using it.

Easiest way to find out if something is allowed, check the examples page on Stars software website (sharkscope and sharkscope HUD are there as allowed). If it's not there, email Stars and ask.

It's not clear (to me at least) that the bold would have anything to do with sharkscope, given the information displayed is controlled by the users. If I post in this thread that my PFR % is 38%, that's legal to use, I put it out there in the public domain. If your buddy comes to your house and tells you that I raise 38%, and shows you his database to prove it, that's not allowed, you shouldn't have the info in that case.

Lol yeah, it's in the allowed list, sorry for all the garbage i posted than

no problem, it was fun

Thanks ,I didn't consider rake ,maybe I am mistaken 1 not sure tbh but next time in similar situation will check exact number.

Thanks , That explain a lot , so how is it calculated when We have so many hands in 1 game ? so this formula will be used for every hand ? and what is 1000 number come from ? sorry ,I am not that bad in math , but don't know this formula )

(1000) in this case it the pot-size

Thanks man ,still struggling to understand it though.

For example I 3bet btn on bb with AA 40 to 120 , called 108o , flop is : AJ7109 ,, Villain called flop small and turn big bet , river has few chips and we are in obv .

But my question is , is $EV calculated only pre flop , or also relate to post flop also , if so how ?

Cheers

$EV is always calculated for the moment, when all the chips are in (either you or your enemy is all-in). Then it multipies the pot-size with your chances to win this pot. The result is the amount of chips you are expecting to get on average in this situation.

In your example the all-in was on the river. With no more cards to come you have 0% chance to win & your enemy has 100%. So your $EV in this hand is $0.

Thanks for reply , so basically even if only 5 chips goes in on the river in the pot size of 950 and we have like 80% equity on the turn and 0% on the river , our $EV for the hand would be 0 ?
In the example above I am 90% favour to win the hand and actually that exactly happen , he had 60chips left for the river for the pot size of 1K ! so this kind of situation will affect out $ev alot and our estimation.

Correct. But it balances out in the long run.

Though really you shouldn't be wondering about River hands, those are identical to no EV adjustment at all.

It's the Flop / Turn ones that trip people up... I 3bet to 4bet to 400 with AA preflop and the idiot called with 72o, then we got the remaining 200 chips in on the 772r flop! Why is my EV negative for this hand? We got almost all of chips in with me in the lead!"

With this, again the answer is it will balance out in the end - much of the time the idiot will fold the flop netting you +400 chips at 100% EV. Or call when very behind or whatever. In this case doing an adjustment is not perfect but it is an improvement over not doing one at all.

Balance out explanation was very useful,I never thought it that way ,Thanks.

Can anyone confirm that hypertracker is sending hands in real time to their server? I'm sure it wsn't that way before. It's probably safer to get rid of that program even if it's pretty cool to see your results in real time.

Never heard of Hypertracker and google doesn't seem to help?