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03-26-2018 , 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by gdaviezz
Iv heard smartspin are using it, iv been bumhunting the 500s lobbies for some time now and iv almost never seen 2 smartspin guys playing together, pretty strange eh
they have been "cheating" by playing from the same internet on malta, after some time they got warning from stars and now most of them are back to 100s and rest plays in diffrent hours.
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03-26-2018 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurzatvvarz
they have been "cheating" by playing from the same internet on malta, after some time they got warning from stars and now most of them are back to 100s and rest plays in diffrent hours.
Says on the website they have 700 members - are you saying a lot of members had the same IP address in Malta regardless of which country their account was registered onto? Or was the issue just 5 or 6 guys grinding from the same house on the same IP address.
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03-26-2018 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kobmish
Allegedly spin4play friend said to someone that he was using a program that allowed you to see who is registered in a spin and go, so you can do table selection, play more volume when the games are soft, not sit in games with good regs, sit in games with fish and bad regs, a big advantage and obviously not allowed by stars.

Coоn, I know you thought the deleted thing was a joke, but it was really not funny on at least 3 levels.
**** it let's grab the pitchforks lol.


The above does put the following quote on his toughest challenge moment in a new light:

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There were 3 very hard moments during the bet:

- 1st one was first 1500 games, where I started with such a bad evROI% (negative evROI%) and lots of doubts because I was nervous with the bet and adapting to a new set up. After the game 1500 or so, things started going much better."

100k on the line and a ski jump for an ev line might easily have tempted him. There was a huge turnaround from game 1500, his new set up seemed to help.

And smartspin have openly promoting their dynamic hud and their detailed chart APK that is designed to be used on tablets, well out of the way of stars prying eyes. That their players have dismally low simusits in he high stakes pool doesn't surprise
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03-26-2018 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by the4bettingmonk
Says on the website they have 700 members - are you saying a lot of members had the same IP address in Malta regardless of which country their account was registered onto? Or was the issue just 5 or 6 guys grinding from the same house on the same IP address.
All 5s (well most of them) in the same house, yes. Which is < 10 I think, haven't counted. Stars don't sit people from the same IP at the same table at all, so technically they did absolutely nothing, no queue or anything like that.
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03-26-2018 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by the4bettingmonk
Says on the website they have 700 members - are you saying a lot of members had the same IP address in Malta regardless of which country their account was registered onto? Or was the issue just 5 or 6 guys grinding from the same house on the same IP address.

im talking only about 500s, they were grinding from same ip so they didn't play against each other, but hopefully stars took care of this also zapolek/killuifuplay founder of smartspin tried to force me to queue with him/other smartspin members.
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03-26-2018 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurzatvvarz
im talking only about 500s, they were grinding from same ip so they didn't play against each other, but hopefully stars took care of this also zapolek/killuifuplay founder of smartspin tried to force me to queue with him/other smartspin members.
I read the big long post made about the beef between you and him, seemed like a bit of an ego problem on his end, is HU4ROLLZ happening?
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03-27-2018 , 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by gdaviezz
I read the big long post made about the beef between you and him, seemed like a bit of an ego problem on his end, is HU4ROLLZ happening?
dont think so
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03-27-2018 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gdaviezz
I read the big long post made about the beef between you and him, seemed like a bit of an ego problem on his end, is HU4ROLLZ happening?
link ?
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03-27-2018 , 07:45 PM
start of the drama u can find(u have to use translator)
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...54233641528888

next post
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...54233641528888
my answer to their post, pointing some lies.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...54233641528888

tldr:
*smartspin blocks me from playing 1ks because i don't want extend the contract
*forcing other players to extend their deal with lower cut + go to Malta(glad stars took care of this) if they want to play 500s
*trying to force me to break stars regulations and queque with killu/other memembers on 500s.
*organizes quequeing on partypoker
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03-27-2018 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gdaviezz
I read the big long post made about the beef between you and him, seemed like a bit of an ego problem on his end, is HU4ROLLZ happening?
"OUR FOUNDER KILLUIFUPLAY DECIDED TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE WHOLE ISSUE"
"This piece of text was written fully by our founder, a HU HT legend killuifuplay:"

Nope, def. no ego problem
He forgot to mention he typed the text with his own hands, the same hands the click buttons on 500s spins, forrealz!
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03-28-2018 , 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurzatvvarz
start of the drama u can find(u have to use translator)
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...54233641528888

next post
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...54233641528888
my answer to their post, pointing some lies.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...54233641528888

tldr:
*smartspin blocks me from playing 1ks because i don't want extend the contract
*forcing other players to extend their deal with lower cut + go to Malta(glad stars took care of this) if they want to play 500s
*trying to force me to break stars regulations and queque with killu/other memembers on 500s.
*organizes quequeing on partypoker

lol, glad I did not join that stable. They wanted me to send my whole database after seeing my results. Just seems like a really shady stable overall.

Respect for speaking out.
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03-28-2018 , 03:11 PM
Hi, I'm a partypoker regular. Could you explain how they do quequeing and who? If you want you can write to me privately because I would like to report this but I do not have enough information. Thank you very much
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03-28-2018 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AAPP
Hi, I'm a partypoker regular. Could you explain how they do quequeing and who? If you want you can write to me privately because I would like to report this but I do not have enough information. Thank you very much
can't tell much, while my account was frozen one of their worker invited me to play on partypoker saying they are also quequeing to not play eachother but was not interested.
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03-28-2018 , 04:26 PM
it was just a matter of time before those cancerous eastern euros ****ed up something fun like spin and gos. illegal charts and bots? these counties should be ****ing nuked from the internet.

god i hate "stables" of dirty ****ing cheaters. i hope stars bans these cucks into oblivion and denies them ANY ability to ever play on pokerstars.

i feel no pity for these scum.
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03-28-2018 , 04:32 PM
Do you know how many players would be involved? Thank you very much
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03-28-2018 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
it was just a matter of time before those cancerous eastern euros ****ed up something fun like spin and gos. illegal charts and bots? these counties should be ****ing nuked from the internet.

god i hate "stables" of dirty ****ing cheaters. i hope stars bans these cucks into oblivion and denies them ANY ability to ever play on pokerstars.

i feel no pity for these scum.
It's not people from certain countries that cheat, it's people that want to cheat. It's particularly dangerous if leaders of groups (such as stables) do things like this, the impact is much greater.

But don't blame eastern euros, or Russians or Romanians or Canadians or whoever. There are cheaters from every country that have been banned for using illegal software or otherwise cheating. Individuals make choices, it's not country specific.
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03-28-2018 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
It's not people from certain countries that cheat, it's people that want to cheat. It's particularly dangerous if leaders of groups (such as stables) do things like this, the impact is much greater.

But don't blame eastern euros, or Russians or Romanians or Canadians or whoever. There are cheaters from every country that have been banned for using illegal software or otherwise cheating. Individuals make choices, it's not country specific.
But the cheaters are never from MAGA on stars. Never!!! Coincidence? I don't think so.
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03-28-2018 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kobmish
But the cheaters are never from MAGA on stars. Never!!! Coincidence? I don't think so.
All Americans were banned in 2011, presumably for cheating.
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03-28-2018 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJam
You sure he discussed the issue in that post? Felt like the article was mostly this:

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03-29-2018 , 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AAPP
Do you know how many players would be involved? Thank you very much
no idea
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03-29-2018 , 06:04 AM
Hi Guys!
I have question for you according spin and go-s real$ and EV$ winnings.
So i have 10k spin games on 15$ with 75chip EV/game.
And now i decided i start to play by myself( without any backing group)
So the question is which site and limit do u offer to me?
Stars ES 10EUR (last 3k game 90chip/game)?
Or do you know any other site 888 or PP which has the lowest variance beetween Ev and real winnnings?
Sorry for my english.
Thank you in advance
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03-29-2018 , 06:16 AM
Hey,
With these results you should play 30s on pokerstars.eu or 25s on pokerstars.es, if you play decent volume/hours you might want to consider partypoker 20s where RB depends on the volume a lot (if you 1-2 table from time to time, you will not reach good rb% and its probably not worth to play on that software and on lower stakes vs stars), with 50s move up after few k games of nice cev.
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03-29-2018 , 06:58 AM
Kurzatvvarz

"yeah lol with 500s is bull****. and they even said for example if you have 80/20 contract.

80% for me and 20% for them, or other way?

Is it per/month or per let say 1000 games or...
I have no idea how those stables works.

Thanks for answer.
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03-29-2018 , 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Sweet1
Kurzatvvarz

"yeah lol with 500s is bull****. and they even said for example if you have 80/20 contract.

80% for me and 20% for them, or other way?

Is it per/month or per let say 1000 games or...
I have no idea how those stables works.

Thanks for answer.
80 for you and its done monthly in most stables
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