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Old 02-10-2018, 07:28 PM   #6451
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

what do you mean by breakeven ?

Like cev = 30 or whatever required to make 0$ in EV ?
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Old 02-14-2018, 11:17 AM   #6452
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Hi,

What are the most important spots with spin&go? And why ?

1. HU BB
2. HU SB
3. BBvSB 3w
4. SBvsBB 3w
5. BBvBTN
6. BTN
7. SBvBTN

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Old 02-14-2018, 12:03 PM   #6453
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what is the longest breakeven stretch you guys have experienced in spin&go?
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1kish
Hours? Hours sounds about right.
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Old 02-14-2018, 02:54 PM   #6454
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Hours? Hours sounds about right.
EV wise im talking, money wise a lifetime
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:55 PM   #6455
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...-post-1468580/

All you need to answer your questions about variance.
No, random forum user anecdotes about how long they had x over y won't help :P

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Hi,

What are the most important spots with spin&go? And why ?

1. HU BB
2. HU SB
3. BBvSB 3w
4. SBvsBB 3w
5. BBvBTN
6. BTN
7. SBvBTN

?
In tendency those that arise most often and have the highest cev/tournament contribution potential, i.e. HU & 3h BTN. But ppl have individual leaks, could well be working on 3h SB or BB play is best for you.
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:09 PM   #6456
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what do you mean by breakeven ?

Like cev = 30 or whatever required to make 0$ in EV ?
max number of games played generating 0 chipEV
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Old 02-15-2018, 10:29 AM   #6457
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max number of games played generating 0 chipEV
0 chip ev isn't breaking even fam.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:14 AM   #6458
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

1k spins are live on stars.eu/com
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:06 PM   #6459
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0 chip ev isn't breaking even fam.
you´re right, i meant 0 EV (im sure u know what i meant but still) or a 0% evROI
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Old 02-16-2018, 10:16 AM   #6460
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Whats the rake on 500s and 1000s ? Still 5%?
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Old 02-16-2018, 11:26 AM   #6461
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$1000 Spins disappeared from lobby..?
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Old 02-16-2018, 04:28 PM   #6462
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Obsed some yday, they did not run consistenly fwiw (often highest game to obs was 500, those run consistenly).
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Old 02-17-2018, 08:32 PM   #6463
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Hey guys,

How can i transform my chip EV into winnings EV?

I mean straightforward. Ok after Chip Ev i can find my EV roi and then find my EV winnings.
But can i do it in another way? For example 500 chips is one buy in on spin, so X Chip ev/ 500 = buy in winning EV?
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:31 AM   #6464
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

cEV/500*(BI-R)-R
so at 15s if your cEV is 60 you will have 60/500*14.1-0.9=0.792$/game
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Old 02-28-2018, 01:50 AM   #6465
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

$1000 Spins appeared few hours ago and now are gone again. I don't get what are they doing on Pokerstars. Are 1ks going to be available sporadically? Are they testing? I am curious if this is testing trying to prevent enabling them for a week and then disabling them making it public that they don't have enough people for it, testing it like that even though it provides less reliable results it's more safe for company's image? They could just implement a system that enables them when there is relatively big action at 500s and if for a set amount of time no action takes place at 1ks auto-disable them...
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Old 02-28-2018, 12:44 PM   #6466
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Don't see what's bad about checking demand for them. If they just happen to cannibalize 500s without creating additional rake, they will not continue to supply them, so no worries.
They even tested 2500$ spins yday fwiw
When 500s were introduced, this was just a tester for demand as well (they labeled it some promo or whatever, announcing they will be gone after beginning of dec 17), it worked apparently.

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I am curious if this is testing trying to prevent enabling them for a week and then disabling them making it public that they don't have enough people for it
Where do u see a problem with that? Customers not willing to buy-in for nosebleed stakes are the fault / image damage to the provider? o_O
They're just checking out what's possible - and I'm not a fan of amaya at all, but this is reasonable.
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Old 03-01-2018, 03:13 AM   #6467
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Don't see what's bad about checking demand for them. If they just happen to cannibalize 500s without creating additional rake, they will not continue to supply them, so no worries.
They even tested 2500$ spins yday fwiw
When 500s were introduced, this was just a tester for demand as well (they labeled it some promo or whatever, announcing they will be gone after beginning of dec 17), it worked apparently.



Where do u see a problem with that? Customers not willing to buy-in for nosebleed stakes are the fault / image damage to the provider? o_O
They're just checking out what's possible - and I'm not a fan of amaya at all, but this is reasonable.
I am not saying it's bad to check demand, what I am saying is how can you check demand when you randomly enable them, it's not a reliable indicator. For example the very first time they activated them I didn't realise it till they disabled them. This time when I saw them live it was after a very exhausting day of volume and real life obligations and the next day as soon as I woke up I launched PokerStars to see them gone.


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Where do u see a problem with that? Customers not willing to buy-in for nosebleed stakes are the fault / image damage to the provider? o_O
They're just checking out what's possible - and I'm not a fan of amaya at all, but this is reasonable.
I was just spectulating why would they test them like that. It was just a thought. Amaya might thought it wouldn't be good for them if players started talking about how 1000s failed to be active and compare it to back in the day.
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Old 03-03-2018, 04:49 PM   #6468
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

What's considered the best hud in the market for spins that work on partypoker? Money is not an issue.
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Old 03-03-2018, 09:48 PM   #6469
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what tracker are you using?
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Old 03-04-2018, 12:14 AM   #6470
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I will use whatever i have to use
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Old 03-04-2018, 06:22 PM   #6471
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

well best HUD profiles out there are either for PokerTracker4 or Hand2Note...

Check out these for PT4...
http://www.snghud.com/info-spgm.html
http://spinngo.pro/
https://www.husng.com/content/spinngo-hud
https://www.husng.com/content/spinhud-2016-1
https://www.husng.com/content/spin-go-hud#
https://www.husng.com/content/coffee...n-and-go-hud-1

For Hand2Note check out these...
http://www.hand2note.com/Shop/Home/C...tegory=SpinNGo

Other just use custimizable HUD tailored made to their needs, ik now this guy that can make one for you if you dont find any of the above suitable for what you want, hit me up with a PM and i will send you his skype addres, cheers.
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Old 03-08-2018, 07:37 AM   #6472
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

how many buyins do you recommend for 25€ games?
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Old 03-08-2018, 11:03 AM   #6473
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bankroll management It depends on different aspects like what is your average chipEV or monthly volume? your prone to tilt? reload posibilities? how much time do you devote to study? etc but overall im guessing it will be something around 200 and 300 buyins, obviously 300 buyins will reduce RoR a lot in comparisson to 200.
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Old 03-08-2018, 02:15 PM   #6474
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

Anyone know how big is the playerpool on average at 500dol spins? Like 10 games at a time at slower times and 30 at peak times or much different than that?
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:53 PM   #6475
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how many buyins do you recommend for 25€ games?
xPISCIVOROUSx is a nit. 100 Buy ins is recommended. Move down if you lose 50 buy ins and results aren´t good. It´s better to move up and down based on bankroll than to be a nit and conservative.

Download "swongsim" and you can see for yourself what swings you can experience and what earning you can make and so forth.

Good luck!
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