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07-03-2017 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Pliauskis
Heard that you need around 60 chev to break even pre rb @ winamax, is it true?
38.1
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07-03-2017 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
38.1
itm ? need 38.1 itm?
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07-03-2017 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by puggimar
itm ? need 38.1 itm?
38.1 EV chips per game = 0% EV ROI (break-even pre rakeback), for 7% rake, like Winamax Expresso.
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07-03-2017 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
38.1 EV chips per game = 0% EV ROI (break-even pre rakeback), for 7% rake, like Winamax Expresso.
Multiplier rate is same?
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07-03-2017 , 02:57 PM
Not sure what you're asking. 38.1 EV chips per game, which is 35.9% win rate, for the current Winamax Expresso multiplier structure.
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07-03-2017 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
38.1 EV chips per game = 0% EV ROI (break-even pre rakeback), for 7% rake, like Winamax Expresso.
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07-04-2017 , 06:03 AM
How is the ev chips and/or ITM calculated... I want to calculate for twisters... but not sure how. Im assuming it's similar to the winamax as the rake is the same but there are some differences with the payouts.

I signed up to coral via a rake back site which states 60% rakeback... How does this affect the ev chips and ITM? As it makes the real rake after rakeback 2.8%...
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07-04-2017 , 07:09 AM
I would have a technical question! What's the difference between all in ev in the graph, chips ev in the reports? Should they coincide? Is a hm bug in espresso? ty in advance
exp : https://www.dropbox.com/s/ls1gxt3oftdy2r7/diff.PNG?dl=0
in this image exp: i have 743 chips ev in the repor,t but around 1200 all in ev! what's the difference?
it's same chips ev?
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07-04-2017 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by puggimar
I would have a technical question! What's the difference between all in ev in the graph, chips ev in the reports? Should they coincide? Is a hm bug in espresso? ty in advance
exp : https://www.dropbox.com/s/ls1gxt3oftdy2r7/diff.PNG?dl=0
in this image exp: i have 743 chips ev in the repor,t but around 1200 all in ev! what's the difference?
it's same chips ev?
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Please try to vacuum/analyze and reindex your database - Hold'Em Manager 2 FAQs - Poker Software :: Database Manager (Ribbon)

If you continue to have problems, try the following:

Try creating a new DataBase and import a small portion of your \HM2Archive so you can see if the problem exists in the new DB - Hold'Em Manager 2 FAQs - Poker Software :: How to create a new database and import previously played hands

If the new database seems to work properly, it sounds like your database might be corrupt. Please continue to use the new database and import the rest of your hands using the steps above. This is why regular backups are a good idea. If your database becomes corrupt you can restore a backup and only have to import the most recent hands (that were played after the backup was created) and edit any tournament results if necessary. I recommend keeping at least the most recent 2 or 3 backups in case the most recent one does not restore properly you can try the previous backup.

Here is a FAQ explaining how to backup your database and all settings in one easy step - Hold'Em Manager 2 FAQs - Poker Software :: How does Backup and Restore Database, Settings and HUD configs work?

If none of that helps please zip and email the problem hand histories to us using the 'Contact Support' link here - https://support.holdemmanager.com/support/product/1

All original hands that are auto-imported get moved to an archive for performance reasons. Your \HM2Archive is in C:\HM2Archive by default, but you may have put it anywhere. The archive should be organized by \Month\DayOfMonth e.g C:\HM2Archive\2009\07\31 or if it was auto-imported with v7283+ it would be in C:\HM2Archive\SiteName\YYYY\MM\DD.

When sending any files please zip them (right-click > send to > compressed folder) before attaching them to an email. If the attachment is larger than 10MB please upload them to a file hosting site like dropbox, then 'copy public link' and paste the download link directly into the support ticket email.
i make all ,but the report in new session,The same mistake !
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ko93u5atb93xgn1/oggi.PNG?dl=0
I can not find the solution
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07-07-2017 , 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by StingRay89
How is the ev chips and/or ITM calculated... I want to calculate for twisters... but not sure how. Im assuming it's similar to the winamax as the rake is the same but there are some differences with the payouts.

I signed up to coral via a rake back site which states 60% rakeback... How does this affect the ev chips and ITM? As it makes the real rake after rakeback 2.8%...
coral uses a rake system where net withdrawer rake counts only 50%, so it's effectively 30% rakeback unless you're a losing player
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07-07-2017 , 08:05 AM
Hi guys, i'm playing spin and goes since 4-5 months, currently 10s on an italian website.

i'd like to study some gto stuff , starting from the preflop , and after the postflop.

i'm gonna buy piosolver later in the summer, but not the preflop version ( can't afford it).

Can u plz suggest me how can i get more info of the preflop gto?

Right now i'm using the crev equilibrium solver preflop , but ranges really depends on the range's equity realization postflop ( i.e. ip in raised/limped if we realize 100% equity or higher %, or oop bvb in isoled pot how much goes under 100% etc etc).

i really appreciate any advice !

Ty all
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07-07-2017 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Lollo22aces
Hi guys, i'm playing spin and goes since 4-5 months, currently 10s on an italian website.

i'd like to study some gto stuff , starting from the preflop , and after the postflop.

i'm gonna buy piosolver later in the summer, but not the preflop version ( can't afford it).

Can u plz suggest me how can i get more info of the preflop gto?

Right now i'm using the crev equilibrium solver preflop , but ranges really depends on the range's equity realization postflop ( i.e. ip in raised/limped if we realize 100% equity or higher %, or oop bvb in isoled pot how much goes under 100% etc etc).

i really appreciate any advice !

Ty all
Speriamo abbiano voglia di risponderti ,sarei interessato anche io alla risposta !
Di solito l ego/ guadagno non permette loro di esporsi a consigli ,se non banali e superficiali .
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07-10-2017 , 03:57 AM
Has anyone here been grinding 50s on Party? If yes how are the games, what is the waiting period until a table fires up?
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07-10-2017 , 10:36 AM
are the stables going to still be backing people for spins on stars? Not looking to get backed but i assume a large proportion of ppls profits when they get 50% is rb, will this mean spins get softer?
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07-10-2017 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by margenov
Has anyone here been grinding 50s on Party? If yes how are the games, what is the waiting period until a table fires up?
Yea I've played them but can't compare them to spin and gos on stars as I haven't played there. Some good regs for sure. With antes game plays pretty fast which can hurt EV considering the rake is 6%. Better at peak times. Preferred the old bounty format myself.
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07-10-2017 , 11:33 AM
Hey guys I am looking for free spin go content ( youtube etc) ? Are there any decent channels of spin go regs you can reccommend ?

Besides content from other players, what is your main approach to improve your games off the table ?
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07-10-2017 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by the4bettingmonk
Yea I've played them but can't compare them to spin and gos on stars as I haven't played there. Some good regs for sure. With antes game plays pretty fast which can hurt EV considering the rake is 6%. Better at peak times. Preferred the old bounty format myself.
https://www.partypoker.com/how-to-pl...l-edition.html

Did you make a mistake, or is this site info wrong? According to the site the rake for 50$ spins is 5%.
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07-10-2017 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 26sk8er
are the stables going to still be backing people for spins on stars? Not looking to get backed but i assume a large proportion of ppls profits when they get 50% is rb,
Sure they will as long as it's profitable to them, which means they have to increase their requirements from players.

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Originally Posted by 26sk8er
will this mean spins get softer?
Could be, altho they are by far the softest relevant gametype already and the pool is giant, so the effects are far from sure, might well be negligible.
What will very likely get softer are all variants of SnG tho, their pool is not nearly as big and they have a way lower rec/ratio than spins, forcing more % of players (who live from / make side income with poker) out of business. Rec/reg ratio data over time will be interesting.

Last edited by LeaksSuck; 07-10-2017 at 01:47 PM.
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07-10-2017 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by watergun7
https://www.partypoker.com/how-to-pl...l-edition.html

Did you make a mistake, or is this site info wrong? According to the site the rake for 50$ spins is 5%.
ya sry its 5 the lower ones are higher
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07-10-2017 , 03:04 PM
For those of you playing on Party,
I have a free/open beta of SiQreg for PartyPoker HERO (auto-reg / session management / goals tracker).

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/45...-beta-1675609/

Feedback very much appreciated
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07-11-2017 , 01:13 PM
Can someone help me to set up the EV+Bounty+rb @ 4handed partypoker sngs ?
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07-21-2017 , 09:20 AM
hello have been grinding twister i dont understand y so much variance in chip ev am the same player still so much variance
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Last edited by _dave_; 07-21-2017 at 10:32 AM. Reason: fixed images
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07-21-2017 , 10:34 AM
You posted the same image twice, and linked the imgur page instead of the actual image. Make sure your image url ends in .PNG .JPG, or similar (right click -> view image / open image in new tab).
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07-21-2017 , 10:57 AM
can someone tell me where does the 'tournament $' earned go that I get from the chests?
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07-21-2017 , 11:21 AM
It shows in cashier page next to $USD, or at least used to. It gets spent before real money whenever entering a tournament, so if you want to see it you'll need to look at cashier straight after opening a chest before playing more tournaments.
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