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 03-09-2017, 12:06 AM #5701 isildwan banned   Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 28 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** why multiplier is not taken into consideration in \$ev ?
03-09-2017, 12:56 PM   #5702
MakinItKane9
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

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 Originally Posted by isildwan why multiplier is not taken into consideration in \$ev ?
Its considered in the results tab, but will only show chip ev on your graph.

 03-09-2017, 10:17 PM #5703 isildwan banned   Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 28 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** that kinda sucks. because I lost 22\$ in ev in a x2 15\$ spin ( how the **** can we lose more than 1 buy in \$ev in 1 spin ) and only won 20\$ in ev in a x10 15\$ spin where I was always ahead in AI and vilain crai with 0% on turn in HU 25bbd where my \$ev should be at least 80\$ when you have \$ev requirement to move up in stakes that is kinda ****ed up how big multipliers don't have more weight than x2
 03-09-2017, 11:29 PM #5704 _dave_ _Pooh_Bah_   Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK (or what remains of it) Posts: 12,948 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** In \$EV, all spins have more weight than 2x (they are 3x, of course). Multipliers not affecting it is the whole point! Would you rather your backers moved up your lucky friend who is terrible but hit a 1000x, and despite you playing real good and having strong \$EV is considering to move you down because it's been 2k games since you've spinned more than a rare 6x? of course not! It's easy to lose more than 1 buyin in \$EV. Consider with roughly 500 chip stacks, if you get KK in vs AA, you're losing about 400 of chip EV no matter the result of the hand. If you hit a K and survive, you have 1000 chips that you can proceed to lose, but you only need lose 100 more to hit one buyin's worth of EV. Get KK vs AA again vs the other guy and lose - now you're down 800 chips in EV, or ~1.5 buyins - but still in the game, back where you started with a 500 chip stack, still able to win or lose more EV in this very same game. It goes the other way too, you can win more than two buyins of EV so it all balances out. It's why people use it!
 03-10-2017, 09:41 PM #5705 isildwan banned   Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 28 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** Thank you for you answer, got it
 03-11-2017, 07:19 PM #5706 Limitbreak centurion     Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 136 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** Has anyone grinded the Party Poker variant SNG Hero? How does the variance compare to Stars Spins and Go's?
 03-11-2017, 10:45 PM #5707 isildwan banned   Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 28 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** does your pt4 not import many spins too ? after each session I'm missing tons of spins and have to request hh from stars then import it to pt4. Can't do this every session, that's a f*** pain in the ass
 03-11-2017, 10:59 PM #5708 xPISCIVOROUSx adept   Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 741 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** Thats a known issue for PokerStars from their last update they´re having troubles with hand histories from multipliers games specially in those 6x and higher it has nothing to do with PT4 in fact try to open the hand history window and u will see there isnt any hands been recorded by pokerstars hence PT4 doesnt haven anything to import. I send them an email a few weeks back and didnt got any reply then i sent another with a more angry tone and this is what they replied...
 03-11-2017, 11:16 PM #5709 isildwan banned   Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 28 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** thank you , crazy how incompetent stars has become I also have a problem with PT4 and prizepools, in many spins I have 27.2\$ in amount won in 15\$ spins because the prizepool is not correct. do you guys have the same problem ? how to fix it besides requesting hh from stars to know the correct prizepool
 03-12-2017, 01:00 AM #5710 xPISCIVOROUSx adept   Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 741 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** You can manually edit the tournaments results by going to the Results tab and searching for those you want to edit and right click on it and select "Edit Tournament"
 03-12-2017, 11:10 PM #5711 squire1888 old hand     Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: scotland Posts: 1,683 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** \$360k drops 3 times in 3 days on ps WTF!! lol
03-13-2017, 10:16 AM   #5712
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

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 Originally Posted by isildwan thank you , crazy how incompetent stars has become I also have a problem with PT4 and prizepools, in many spins I have 27.2\$ in amount won in 15\$ spins because the prizepool is not correct. do you guys have the same problem ? how to fix it besides requesting hh from stars to know the correct prizepool
Are you saving both Hand Histories and Tournament Summaries within the pokerstars client, and then importing both into PT4? I suspect you're not importing the tournament summaries for one reason or another.

03-13-2017, 09:23 PM   #5713
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

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 Originally Posted by squire1888 \$360k drops 3 times in 3 days on ps WTF!! lol
here is another one just 25min ago lol

03-13-2017, 09:24 PM   #5714
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

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 Originally Posted by 8runo Are you saving both Hand Histories and Tournament Summaries within the pokerstars client, and then importing both into PT4? I suspect you're not importing the tournament summaries for one reason or another.
true I was not. I ticked the option, thanks.

 03-14-2017, 11:57 AM #5715 Moe90 newbie   Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 16 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** can someone upload the "\$ev" pt4 stat for spins, please? gl @ll
 03-14-2017, 06:31 PM #5716 aliku grinder     Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Romania Posts: 541 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** network wide disconnection on stars spins atm. I was 2 tabbing + regged for another 4 \$100 spins and a "connecting..." tab appeared. I was able to finish the 2 tabs that were in play, but it seems that i was taxed for the other 4 tabs without any of them appearing on the screen; the "Registered" tab wasn't working and nothing popped up. Mailed support. Anybody wanna wager that I'll get a big fat cock in my mouth from stars instead of a refund ? **** disgraceful; was dc'd a few weeks ago because of their ****ed up server (everything else was working fine, lost about 6000chips bcos of it in spins (some in x6 x10 x4) and was refunded TWO ****ING BUYINS. Amaze me, Stars. A-****ING-MAZE ME YOU ****ING *****.
 03-14-2017, 08:26 PM #5717 DJSpinThat journeyman   Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 218 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** Seems like its back up again
 03-14-2017, 11:10 PM #5718 generic91 newbie     Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 28 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** how many regs are in 30s ? 40% regs / 60% and 60s? and 100s? Will spin and go profitable until 2020??
03-15-2017, 06:24 AM   #5719
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

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 Originally Posted by generic91 Will spin and go profitable until 2020??
It never was ofc!

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 03-15-2017, 11:16 PM #5720 istack_u5 grinder     Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: in an igloo Posts: 618 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** adding on that... 1)not if 0% rb imo 2)spins wont be the hot thing in 2020 (Im guessing)
 03-22-2017, 08:45 PM #5721 hemstock Pooh-Bah   Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,318 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** How did spinlyzer calculate the chipev for hu and 3h seperately? I added a filter for Players dealt in hand in PT4 but the cev for 3h and 2h do not add up to my actual cev like they did in spinlyzer.
03-22-2017, 09:16 PM   #5722
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Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

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 Originally Posted by hemstock How did spinlyzer calculate the chipev for hu and 3h seperately? I added a filter for Players dealt in hand in PT4 but the cev for 3h and 2h do not add up to my actual cev like they did in spinlyzer.
cEV per game filtered for 2h is probably being calculated by dividing only by the number of games where you made it to HU. To get it to add up, it should be divided by total games.

cEV per game

= (total EV chips) / (total games)

= (2h EV chips) / (total games) + (3h EV chips) / (total games)

 03-22-2017, 10:13 PM #5723 hemstock Pooh-Bah   Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,318 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** Thank you very much. I briefly thought I was a god hu
 03-22-2017, 10:33 PM #5724 isildwan banned   Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 28 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread ** i think you're awful both hu and 3way
 03-22-2017, 10:41 PM #5725 hemstock Pooh-Bah   Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,318 Re: ** Official Spin and Go's Discussion Thread **

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