i have started playing these again recently after quite a bit of time away.

Have started strongly, but would ask if Stars is the best place for these 3 man lottery type tournaments, or does anyone have other preferred sites

Any word from Stars about why certain games aren't being tracked? Still not sure if this is some sort of glitch with the recent update or a purposeful attempt to end hand histories/HUDs.

It's a glitch with a recent update, of course. See the PS software thread in Internet Poker.

Seriouisly, "a purposefui attempt to end hand histories" resulting in a random 5% of HH not being saved properly?

Would you be surprised that Stars would a) want that sort of thing or b) screw it up?

Beta HH disruption test.

where to activate chipEV/Tourney in Pokertracker?

and what does o PT4 under Graphs/Hands/Chips won means? Everything is going up although i am break even in tourney winnings atm... what is the explanation at this graph?

LOL THIS is so ridiculous. Last tourney of a bad session 1$ - than a 4 $ price pool. Villain had 5 chips left and one. Like 10 flips in a row. this is just not possible guys???

I can't understand p4 why in that case the adjusted graph is also going down when villain had 5 chips left?

What is wrong with those games?

he got unluckier getting to 5 chips than he did getting them back, or some other reason. It's very unlikey anything is wrong with the games, unless hands are missing.

what is the standard deviation of Spin&Gos? Like iw as playing with the SwongSim Calculator on the Visualizar tab and wasnt sure what to tap on the STD section...thoughts?

I've just moved to play on stars and I don't understand one thing - why regs don't unhide from search (60s)? Spin and go is high variance game and you all are interested in lowering variance - playing with the fish.

ist it a plus when villains move allin first hand with crap and immediately one is out or is this completely not +ev for us as chip is money?

How can i see in PT4 the results if every tourney had the same price pool? Is this considered in the net adjust winning graph? Don't understand it pt wise... who can help me on this?

https://www.pokertracker.com/

i lost a 7$ 840 spin today, it feels grossss...

Standard deviation in luck-adjusted chips won (chip EV) will vary from player to player. There's no simple way to get it that I know of. It seems to run from around 350 on the low end up to about 500. You can try various numbers to see how the simulations are affected.

If you really want to find your std dev (and you have at least a few thousand games), find EV chips won on a PT4 report that lists each tournament. (Or create a new report with only tournament # and EV chips won.) Export that report (csv file) and then import or paste it into a spreadsheet. In the spreadsheet, you can calculate standard deviation on the column that has the EV chip numbers.


Keep in mind, the standard deviation is used only in EV Chip mode on SwongSim, which is for studying potential swings in EV Chips per game. Be warned that EV Chip mode will likely under represent the swings because it does not simulate the skew seen in EV chips per game distributions (and other simplifying assumptions, like having the exact same edge in every game).

glgl

That sucks mate.

i havent had a big multiplier as yet, but when it hovers over one i'm not sure if the feeling i have is excitement or fear.

good luck on your next one !

I have a question about which site offer spin n go's? I only know PokerStars, Ipoker, Micogaming, Winamax.

Also if someone could get me an insight into how 'tough' games are. I've played NLHE up to NL50, but am kind of bored from it. Played around 50-60 10€ spin n go's and they seem fairly easy, just not sure about $/h.

Should I just try and grind out NLHE or is it still worth it to play spin n go's? Let's also say I have 6-8 hours per day and want to make 2k€/month.

WPN (America's Card Room, etc), 888, and Party Poker all offer versions.

What would you guys suggest for someone with a chipEV of 60 over 3k games 7$ spins who goal is to play 30$ spins.
Apply to smart spin or husng staking program or buy coffeyay pack of 300$ and selfstudy?

Coffeyay course will help you improve that cev and even beat $15s at some extent but it wont helo you crush $15s and yet alone $30s you can def selfstudy them and keep 100% of your EV but unless you devote a sick amount of time to study and work on your game it will take you a lot of time. Doing it with a stablish stable will surely drastically reduce the time for you to be at and beating $30s but you know that comes with a sacrify.

60 cev at 7s will be like break even or at best 40 cev at 15s.But for 3k games you can have 30 or 60 cev easily.If you play on your own i think its bettter to stay at 7s.
15s is filled with regs nowadays so for someone with 60 cev at 7s it will be kinda stressful.
If you want to move up, join stable but dont only go to the two you mentioned.Apply to all cause you have some winning sample and i think all will take you.So imo choose the best offer, cause every stable has the financial stabillity and the coaching resources for their players to beat 15s/30s.

Thanks for the information both.
These 2 stables looks the most proffesional to me but they probably got the best advertising so the deal may be worse.
But it is hard for me to know the quality different between stables and deals, i thought most are a 50/50 split.
Do you got other reccomondations for stables? Or is it not allowed to discuss stables here?

There's a staking forum with a bunch of stables. There are more than 2 good stables.

Branding or recognition doesn't mean a worse deal, in poker it regularly means the opposite. I'll use a non HU/Spin example to not step on any toes, but if you look at Run It Once, largely considered the best site for areas such as cash games, it's far cheaper and at least as good of quality as many one-off products that individual coaches make for cash games. There is efficiency gained when dealing with a larger market, and price accuracy as well (single coaches tend to look at the maximum they think a person might pay, whereas groups of coaches/businesses tend to look at it in a more objective way and arrive at a lower price point).

In any case, do your research, look at the total value of a deal (reputation, %, specific coach(es), amount of coaching, deal length) and go from there. Even something like "can get you winning at 15s and 30s" is very vague. Speed at which you get there, how heavily you are winning, those are just two huge factors that will separate player A from player B (staked or not) in profitability.

Thats why you apply to any stable you can find.Compare their offers ,try to negotiate if you dont like something and pick the best deal for you.
Every stable out there has quallity to make their players beat 15s/30s.
Dont just jump to the first one that accepts you ,cause you must never forget that in a certain way you become a "slave", aka: you are not able to do whatever and whenever you want anymore and must do what you are told.So better think twice before signing something that can tie you from 6month to few years if you go for the mind blowing 50k games contract...