Nice post.

That deal looks more stringent and longer than the norm, but did anyone actually look at the player's previous threads/posts? He was playing micros for years, started several goals threads and quickly gave up on them. Codecci talking about 100k ceilings and stuff and the actual subject in this thread is a guy that was posting $3 HUSNG hands late last year....

Honestly it actually seems mutually beneficial based on the general information I see. Guy was likely not a consistent winning player, couldn't consistently stay out of micros for several years, now he at least has what you assume is a winning strategy to follow, a bankroll and support. Sure he gives up half his winnings for up to 2 years, but it sounds worlds better than his previous 3 years of play on his own.

Dunce, I think hourly coaching works out for both parties a far smaller % of the time than a % deal with a coach (which usually means staking).

Success is just so much better aligned when a coach gets paid based on the success of their student. I think that's also why a lot of stables pay their coaches in % and not an hourly rate. The coach is hurting themselves directly and immediately if they mail it in or don't take it as seriously as they should be.

I think your points 1-3 are pretty solid. I think you and codecci are talking past each other a bit. His post seems exclusively NOT about #s 1-2, and more about 3 or a hybrid of 3; a more experienced, more successful and more self motivated player. I think his points are more valid for that.

This point, especially the first statement, is 100% not valid.

coffeeyay, I mean compared to other poker formats. I'm aware that you can go pretty deep in strategy in Spins and there are still alot of new strategies developed and edges to be found. I meant that an average guy can get pretty damn good in Spins with elite material in just 2 months or so, which is much more complicated to do in cash games and probably MTT-s.

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look up koh1990 graph on spinlyzer and kovoons tell me theres not much variance in spins

Yeah, I agree here, but I do think coaching is a viable solution in some of those cases.

Agree with this too, for the third group or highly self-motivated, competent learners a long-term stable deal is probably best only occasionally, and usually other options are better.

It's all relative dude. I buy petrol for the car, pay the rent and drink some beer.

You buy airline tickets, rent baller apartments and drink champagne

wasn't his baller apartment in canada? does that even count? i feel like that doesn't count.

Codecci, id snap-tat a rainbow in my neck for living and studying with jungleman for a few months. Appearantly a tat like that is worth 300k in the right circle.

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What is people lossBB (or win) in SB 3HAND? I lose lot here and if try RAISE a lot lose a lot. Try LIMP a lot. Lose more. Any help or good BB AIM pleased?

breakeven to 1-3cpg is doing well depending on stakes, as for strat that crushes from there, let me know when u find one, toughest spot to play in spins unless ur rayden obv

This is what I do 3 handed. Some people probably do better but it'll give you an indication of what sort of numbers you can do 3 handed.

1,37*0,33 + 3,01*0,33 + 31,84*0,33 = 11,95 adj. bb/100

Which is either completely nuts, or a too small sample size. I'm not sure this is sustainable, but still well done.

wow what is the sample on this and how recent are the results? those winrates are really insane

This is mine at the 15s for 223,000 hands



BTN, BB, SB. I am PT4 illiterate so that's the best screen shot I can get without giving away my frequencies.

wow you guys all so sick. Thought + for SB not possible!!! If i could get to -3BB/100 would be happy! Good to see is possible thank you for response! Glad Squire same as me think SB harder than BB by alot

Eh, I just realised I didn't filter mine for 3 dealt into hand, not so sick after all . I will try do it Monday when I get back online.

Sample size is about 3k games over the last couple of months, since I started playing 60s again. Could well be too small a sample, I don't know tbh.

Anyone got more info about this Spinball promotion? Seems daily rewards range from 7$ to 50$ in EV "based on previous gameplay." but there doesn't seem to be specific info about what "previous gameplay" means.

It changes the "minimum stake required" -- there are tiers for minimum stake $1, $7, $30, and $100 and the rewards change commensurately. The average daily reward for clearing both tiers is something like $1.5, $7, $20, and $50 depending on the stake tier. Presumably, your previous gameplay determines the stake your challenge is seeded into. Hope this helps.

I played only $30s and got only $6 and $3/day. Bleah

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