With the difference you can actually beat them without ever hitting one of those "big" jackpots #justsaying

Hey guys, is there any script to hide bankroll playing spins? I tried that few years old ahk-script, but it covered on the wrong place. PS has its own script at HU-sngs, but not on spins. It would be very much +EV for me if I didnt see bankroll everytime I register..

yeah u dont even need a script just click the eye at the side of ballance it hides it, and u can click somethin that pops table without lobby or cashier showing so u never see it (for spins at least) im pretty sure you dont need a script anyway glgl

Yeah I guess I have to do it that way. Thanks

what's a gold chip ?

Do you mean on the buy-in popup dialog? If so, you can just set the option to not show that dialog when you register (also makes registering a one-click process).
In settings > gameplay > multitabling > 'allow registration without showing buyin dialog..'

This. I have solid information about one (hungarian) stable I working with. Of course you don't know me and I have no reputation here so my words are weightless but the only thing I can tell is that any kind handhistory sharing for making unfair advantage (notesharing, database sharing, HH file sharing, etc. between players) is strictly forbidden in that stable.

The reasons for this strict internal rules are public too:
- the first reason is sharing HHs is against the purity of the game and against the rules what every player accepted when sat to the table. Maybe these are only "big words" but believe me, you don't want to be that staker who tells his men that they can cheat and break rules if they want, and after that he have to ask his share based on a settlement. You can lost your trustworthiness only once.
- the second one is more interesting to you I guess: handhistory sharing or using forbidden tools is against the long term best interest of the stable. Maybe it can generate short term profit, but a generic stable is working with hundreds of people and easy to find out there can be several of them who would use this kind of information (about cheating or breaking policy etc) for having leverage against the stable (more specificly they even could blackmail the stable, or making damage if they were greedy or angry)

gl to all

i know many stables that have a cloud folder where their horses poker clients store the HHs, its like they´re getting 20x more hand histories in REAL TIME¡!¡

it is pretty obvious technically (and we could have way better and harder to prove options too) but even if we don't care about fairness of the game, in a larger stable (50+ people) it is very "brave" to think that nobody will tell to PS or post it to 2+2 if it is in their interest.

Alright I'll bite.

Care to elaborate on why some of the 100s hungarian regs were banned in September?

Hello,
Is it some staking stables which pay for Ev ? I heard this somewhere, but i'm not sure it is real.

which?

A small marketing vehicle to lure more players into spins

I'm not gonna post here but you can try asking your boss(es) if he divulges gossip.

Tbh I have no idea why they are banned (either temp or perma) either (somehow stars detected notes/hh sharing I guess?) as they were clearly not botting, but I am way more impressed by Stars' game integrity team as of late. Other sites are basically a joke.

They wasn't from our stable, and have no information what happened there. If I have to guess they may broke some policy and exactly that happened what I presumed for that case.

So name them if know so many. DONT KNOW WHY FIND IT SO HARD. ¬!!!!!

hey,
i think this was mentioned here before and now i am facing this ugly problem: does anybody know what could be the reason for stars sometimes randomly shut down? fortunately it seems to put me on disconnect and so far i barely lost any hands due to it, but it is still very annoying and i would appreciate any hints on how to fix it.

For the same reason nobody does, not gonna start a debate here about this topic, this is a known issue by many and im sure many have emailed PS about it (myself included).

I've never heard about this, altho I'm likely kept out of the loop about this sort of thing since I exposed the Skype registration chats (Which are surely happening again)

why would my boss(s) who dont spin know about hungarian spin peoples ban terms?

He must've heard the Hungarians have been making recruitment efforts deep into Scotland as of late and assumed you were one of the new recruits.

Either that, or the rumors of Jackstack being 5% Hungarian are true.

abarone no disrespect (i mean full disrespect and also respect for the same reason ), but as someone who still doesn't play with a hud or knows what piosolver does, I wouldn't expect you to be up to date with this stuff.

In husngs there is currently a lot of ppl getting investigated/banned for botting/illegal live aids (only on stars), and I would say that in the same reign, stars have upped their game catching cheats of various form in spins.

It turns out that there's more than 1 hungarian stable, and I basically know zero hungarians, but I know some are no longer playing on Stars that used to put in a lot of volume. I suspected that some were banned before, but only confirmed recently (thought they discovered hookers and blow in thailand and stopped grinding).

Squire I guess your stable must not gossip much then, and you obv won't have played any of the banned guys as you moved to 100s after they disappeared.

Also nothing against hungarians regs btw. None of them ever slowroll or trashtalk, and some even engage in friendly table banter, and I'm sure almost all of them don't cheat.

Hey everyone!

I don't usually follow or post here, but now I randomly opened this thread and saw what the chat is going about. I decided to share the story real shortly, however there is no real moral or anything top secret about it.

I used to play spins in one of the big hungarian stables. This year was great for me. We had a great coach and after fixing my approach and mental game I had good results (about 44c/g over 20k games until September, mostly on 100s).

In September the aformentioned ban happened. Several players (about 10pct of the team) were involved in our stable from $15s to 100s. We have received no info for like a week. After that PS asked us to make a video of one of our regular session with camera behind our back, hands, heads and happennings on screen all followable. We all made it. Stars did not send us any info after, only copy/paste answers when we were asking about our account. After 3 months of silence we got the e-mail that our accounts were reopened for 1 week until we can cash out and after that we are banned permanently. They confirmed that they have found no evidence of cheating or anything however they feel "uncomfortable enough" about our situation to close our accounts.

Thats the whole story. Some details to mention:

- As I said, players from all limits were involved, some of them not even playing for the stable (or at all!) for months at that time. This was all randompicking written on it or just someone with little info reporting us with any random reasoning.
- No official reason was told as a reason of ban (if we don't count bs like "we strongly suspect account sharing" and those things). They just decided to suspend our account which of course they can.

We did not use bots or any magic like that as any experienced player can tell who has ever studied our game. Also, sharing hand histories is forbidden in our stable. Obviously our strategy, especially preflop is SOMEWHAT similar because well, gto is gto, but the optimal play for a 15 and a 100 player is still miles away from each other.

In my opinion Pokerstars just sent a very bad message to poker community. They seem to be just straight up against winning players. I can agree that stables in general, especially the huge ones from all around the world in spins, are not doing any good for the poker ecosystem. However as long as PS does not say it's not allowed to play for a stable, we can not mention this as a reason for any investigation.
During and after the whole process we did not receive any info. Their communication was a joke and I'm definitely NOT satisfied with their department The whole thing seems to be just for showing example that they pay attention to stables and they can do whatever they want. Like I said, it's a bad message.

This post is my personal opinion. I will probably follow answers if any appear but I will not get into any argument. I'm not seeking justice or anything and definitely don't want to go back to PS. You just don't go to a pub where they piss into your beer I'm playing in smaller networks and feeling great with really player friendly things like live support

I whish you guys all the best!