If there's legit interest, I'll run a prop.

Would have to figure out all the annoying stuff (Odds, escrows, setting up webcams, etc) and I don't have a ton of extra time at the moment given my involvement in the stable.

Probably looking for something like $15k+ bet against.

Hi everyone, any script to hide the multiplier?

Turns out they still give away 1M

that's how they get ya

poor netspidey would be happy to escrow for abarone bet if it gets interest is there a time limit on said games??


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If the bet gets big enough I'm not sure how much the bettors can and would chase abarone round the 15s lobbies? It's something that might happen and make the bet pretty -ev.

U should be able to find the answer you´re looking for in here

15s have huge traffic would think it be pretty hard to 'hunt' someone at spins also, play at same time and get a few games with him maybe doubt people would go to that extreme tho? maybe wrong


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Do you mean bettors would check up and find out whenever acbarone is grinding and then jump into 15s pool trying to sit him and then hope those few games they play eachother will negatively affect acbarone's ev a bit lol?

15s player pool is extremely large. Even if someone who decided against him decided he'd play every hour acbarone decided to (and btw unless he gives out that information or something I'm not sure how anyone would know exactly when acbarone is playing).

Even if that guy was a 100s reg and could 8 table. That guy and acbarone would probably not meet many games/day, I'd guess less than 3 games/day average when an 8 tabler could play a few hundred lol, and if someone can 8 table 100s it's obv a lot more worth it to 8 table 100s than 15s. Doesn't seem like it would be something that would affect acbarone or the bet, let alone make it worth it to anyone railing.

Generally in the past, bets like this require people with money against to not play against them.

In Spins, with a hidden registration, you would likely just discount games played vs any of the bettors.

That's all a part of the negotiated details though.

From the looks of it, there isn't really any interest in betting against a $100s beast crushing $15s.

This.

Welp, I tried

I'd be willing to bet against 90cEV over 4k games in a month. But the question is what odds. 1.2:1?

I would also like bet against 90 & 100 be fun to watch!!!

4k games in 30 days (ok time period?), 90cEV or 100cEV?
And I think it should be 100cEV if the challenge starts before Jan 15, and 90cEV if it starts after Jan 15. Reason for this is since Holiday period is super juicy.

I'd bet up to 1k against, depends on odds. If you start serious discussion or a thread or something I'd guess more people would be willing to put up action.

Hello,
Aabarone is apparently a 100s beast.He is well experienced at multitabling too.For 100s crusher with probably 50+ cev,dropping way down to 15s where the recs to reg fish ratiio is way bigger ,he should be aiming for 100+ cev.
5k games a month with 100/110 cev ,should be the bet here imo.The action at 15s is good at any time of the day,so for a multitabling crusher 5k shouldnt be a problem.Hell spin4play did 10k games a month at 100s.
For a guy that is crushing 60s/100s spins for 2 years while multitabling them, 100 cev at 15s should be as easy as taking candy from a baby.
Odds should be 1:1 obviously, cause who would bet against 100s crusher in 15s fish pool at lower odds.It is true, that January should be softer,so i propose if that thing is going to happen, it should be in February and afterwards.
I would bet couple of K's against making it.

I'm not even at 50 cEV for the year in $100s



The volume is the easiest part, but 100 cEV is really hard. I do think my game is probably suited well for this sort of challenge considering my ability to multi-table/exploit fish, but by no means is this 'taking candy from a baby.' There's no one getting 90+ per game now, and I'm supposed to come in there, best that number by 10%, annnnnd do it while 6-8 tabling? Yeesh.

Not sure if you can compare the #s to HUSNGs, but I would expect the best guys at $100s-200s to be able to drop into the $15s and have a higher expectation than the top $15s regs.

That could be too high of an expectation for Spins though.

Sorry ,I am probably not able to fully understand what is going on.You are saying that noone is having 90+ cev at 15s nowadays.Thats is correct, but i thought it was due the fact that everybody who is probably able to have it is playing higher.Some regs have 70 cev at 15s over decent sample.Even so we are talking about top 100s reg moving 3 limits down.Ofcourse we should expect him to crush 15s like noone ever has crushed it.Not having 50 but 47 cev at 100s ,i am not sure if you are bragging or you think thats important.So if you think 90 cev is hard for supposed 100s crusher,than all that talk is just smoke in the air.I have been told that 95% of the 15s/30s regs will be considered fish at 100s.You are top reg, so you will be playing close to 100% fish games at 15s.If you are looking to bet that you can make 90 cev at 15s, i think noone is going to take the bait.If you are really trying to make something go 100+ and than people will start to take you seriously, like they did with a true beast like spin4play.

will take action on 90 over 4k games also, think 4k games is airballs to u and u had 65+ cEv at the 60s over a huge sample so dont think 100 is out the question so want better than 1.2-1


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Definitely harder than people are suggesting, increases in win rate shouldn't be that big from the top 15s regs to the top 100s regs. Its really hard to make marginal gains at the top end of the win rate spectrum for many reasons.
1) The skill cap is fairly low in spins, it's likely that the highest wr are closest to the highest wr possible.
2) The top performers at 15s likely have some survivorship and availability biases in their results, so there's no guarantee an excellent player can even replicate their results.
3) The difference between 100s regs and lower regs is in large part related to the ability to maintain results vs regs, I'm sure there's guys at 15s that have elite strategies vs recs - and more specifically the 15s rec population - that can't crush 100s even though a 100s reg might not beat their 15s results.
4) Extending on that, there's a lot of soft skills that distinguish 100s regs that don't help in completing this bet.

Given that this bet should rightfully seem challenging to acbarone but with some information asymmetry for most potential bettors, I doubt this happens.

Wasn't bragging about my cEV, fairly certain there are many guys getting higher winrates.

I do think I'd be better equipped to do this then some other $100s regs who are undeniably better than me, hence why I'm tempted to give it a shot. That said, I'm still going to try to get better than 1:1.

Ibavly has given alot of good points.I believe that alot of the guys that play 100s have close to no idea how lower levels plays, so alot of them are just pulling numbers out of their asses.Abarone typical example.
In the end the point is that alot of players will bet against you, but not against someone like spin4play,hyperdonk,unnbw etc.
All talk and in the end 90 cev....I can think of atleast 10 guys that i would not bet against doing that.Ffs even i have had 2.2k games month at 15s with 91 cev and i am prolly considered fish 30s+.And you are supposedly spin beast,stable owner,coach....best guesser in the game.
I am sure everyone have heard the old: the level i play is hard, but if i move limit or two down i will crush so hard and print all day.
So just less ego and more put my money where my mouth is.

Chill out brah, I didn't say I wouldn't do it.

I even put in a half hour and got 32 games with 200+ cEV.

pics of 91cpg for the fanZzzzz


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