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09-07-2016 , 12:19 PM
1. Click the 'Overlay Stats: Configure' link to the left of the graph and tick the 'Sum Results' box.



2. Don't display money and chip stats in the same graph. Display money only or chips only. (In the screenshot, the expected chips won stat, shown be the yellow line, is a chip stat and has to be removed for the second scale on the right to disappear.)
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09-07-2016 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by squire1888
rocmar87 steams $60 spins
or this https://www.twitch.tv/ijustgamble
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09-07-2016 , 12:29 PM
Are there any streaming regs of lottery SNGs on networks other than Stars and WPN?
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I thought there must be some on Party because it's a ****ing regfest Grinder rewards are top-notch, though.
OT: almost 2 years passed before I finally learned who the dreaded autoregistration tool had been named after


Last edited by coon74; 09-07-2016 at 12:52 PM.
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09-07-2016 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by coon74
1. Click the 'Overlay Stats: Configure' link to the left of the graph and tick the 'Sum Results' box.



2. Don't display money and chip stats in the same graph. Display money only or chips only. (In the screenshot, the expected chips won stat, shown be the yellow line, is a chip stat and has to be removed for the second scale on the right to disappear.)
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09-09-2016 , 09:35 AM
Does anyone know the structure of multipliers @25$ wCOOP spins? They are not even mentioned on stars website, atleast in my country..
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09-09-2016 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jonik
Does anyone know the structure of multipliers @25$ wCOOP spins? They are not even mentioned on stars website, atleast in my country..
Prize Pool Multiplier First Place Prize Frequency
200$5,000 WCOOP Main Event ticket20 in 100,000
6$1509,040 in 100,000
4$10020,940 in 100,000
2$5070,000 in 100,000

www.pokerstars.com/poker/promotions/wcoop-spin-and-go/

Last edited by Max Cut; 09-09-2016 at 11:36 AM. Reason: Thanks coon74, for the correction. :)
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09-09-2016 , 11:27 AM
Thanks, Max!

The top multiplier hits 20 times in 100K games (once in 5K games). The rake is 6%.

I'm tempted.
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09-09-2016 , 02:05 PM
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Prize Pool Multiplier First Place Prize Frequency
200$5,000 WCOOP Main Event ticket20 in 100,000
6$1509,040 in 100,000
4$10020,940 in 100,000
2$5070,000 in 100,000

www.pokerstars.com/poker/promotions/wcoop-spin-and-go/
1st prize ticket non refundable I assume?
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09-09-2016 , 06:24 PM
Yes, indeed. The T&C at the bottom of the promo page state:
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The first ticket that a player wins for the WCOOP Main Event will be non-transferable, non-exchangeable and non-refundable. If a player wins multiple tickets to the Main Event then any subsequent tickets will be exchanged for T$ within one week of the event taking place. Players will not need to contact PokerStars to trigger the transfer(s), as all transfers will be handled automatically by our staff no later than October 3, 2016.
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09-10-2016 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by squire1888
i know some coaches that beat 60s u could get 2/3 hours of coaching for that. if really is priceless in the aspect of future $ made through sessions. i think coffeeyay, bighustla and posibly sentin7 (not 100% sure if i made that up) have packs out. i know 1st 2 for sure have packs out. not sure of prices tho u can seach them here and PM what stakes do u play and how many games if u dont mind me asking sir? can maybe point u in righ direction
Thanks for the shout out squire but I no longer offer video packs for sale or coach for $.
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09-10-2016 , 05:58 PM
So you've started hiding how much your advice is actually worth

Whereas one doesn't have to pay to learn the secret of success at anything - it's well-known and expressed in just three words:
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Find. Your. Niche.

Last edited by coon74; 09-10-2016 at 06:06 PM.
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09-12-2016 , 12:46 PM
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Stars' spins will last for at least 3 months because Stars are not yet ready to deploy an innovative poker variant.
Hi, what do you mean by that? Whats up with the spins?
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09-12-2016 , 12:48 PM
Twitch Streams

Are ijustgamble the way to go for spins and pbogz1114 for husng? (Consistence and Educational wise)
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09-12-2016 , 01:04 PM
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Hi, what do you mean by that? Whats up with the spins?
There's nothing serious happening with them yet. I was just mocking pessimists.
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09-13-2016 , 03:48 AM
does anyone know how to fix the evroi report in pt4 ? it keeps showing the evroi and EV winnings slightly bigger than they should be (by like 0.8)
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09-13-2016 , 03:51 AM
You probably have it set for different rake. In PT4 go to Configure -> Statistics, find that stat, click on Definition and Value Expression should be
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(((((((amt_expected_won / cnt_tourneys) + 500) / 1500) * 0.95) * 3) - 1) * 100)
Where 0.95 = 5% rake. If you play Stars $15/$30 's for example where rake is 6% you should set it to 0.94.
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09-13-2016 , 09:13 AM
where can i download spin ev$ + rb stat?
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09-13-2016 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Nefirmative
The 100s regs with 5%+ ROI are elite regs who are playing 4 or less tables. If more regs wanteed to 2 table instead of 4-6 table there's be at least 20 regs with 5%EVROI.

Not everyone can get there, depends what your definition of 'reasonably hardworking' is. Are you willing to make poker the center point of your life and devote ~200 hours/month for a few years? Achievable. If you're a wizkid who gets the right coaching and has a super effective work process maybe doable in less time. Most of the crushing 100s regs have been playing for years. Many 100s+ HU Hyper regs from days past are playing 30s now.
Why are you speaking in terms of the exceptions? It's like saying 'well Roger Federer has 17 grand slams, therefore it's possible and that's what you should aim for lololol'. You need to be realistic. Stop looking at exceptions and start looking at averages.

And if being in the top 1% means you're making only 100k a year, that industry sounds pretty dead. If you're top 1% in virtually any other field, you can expect to earn a lot more than that.
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09-13-2016 , 04:23 PM
being the topreg in 100s is like being a top ss/midstakes 6max cash reg, you seem to be under the impression that the current 100s topregs would continue to be the topregs if stars suddenly released 300s or 400s or even 500s spins a few weeks down the road. The true worldcrushers arent playing spins because of the buyin cap, you make more money sticking with the 1k hypers 2k turbos/5k turbos etc. (idk if games would be able to sustain itself if such a stake were to be released, likely not but yeah... the reg field would be thinned out pretty ****ing quick atleast and all that would remain is the sickest beasts and they would put up a insane earning with it)


Play with the thought that all 6max NLHE Online games over $1/2 vanished over night, do you think OTB would continue to grind it out or would he put his great pokermind into other formats, variants? Quick examples, HU@eurosites, HU/FR/6max nosebleed live games, PLO or mixed games would be something he´d focus on if not retiring altogether.

edit: also you lowball what the top earners in spins make, by alot.

Last edited by TouchOfEVil; 09-13-2016 at 04:31 PM.
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09-13-2016 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MultiTabling
Why are you speaking in terms of the exceptions? It's like saying 'well Roger Federer has 17 grand slams, therefore it's possible and that's what you should aim for lololol'. You need to be realistic. Stop looking at exceptions and start looking at averages.

And if being in the top 1% means you're making only 100k a year, that industry sounds pretty dead. If you're top 1% in virtually any other field, you can expect to earn a lot more than that.
This +10000.

And let's not forget you can expect that $100k to go down every year.
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09-14-2016 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by grinder4all
This +10000.

And let's not forget you can expect that $100k to go down every year.
I don't even know what we disagree. I wouldn't recommend online poker to anybody who's looking to make serious money. I'm just saying that it's reasonably achievable for people with the drive and 'talent' to make 6 figs. Comparing hourly to other high paying fields it doesn't line up well but for some people playing/studying poker isn't the same as pure work. The flexibility of the hours you can work is also a big draw.
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09-14-2016 , 12:16 PM
lot of talks about top spins regs. Who is on top in your opinions, guys?
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09-14-2016 , 12:37 PM
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09-15-2016 , 06:00 AM
There's a lot of software ideas that come to mind that would help spin regs / spin stables. I've been working on an automatic hud swapper in my spare time that does most of what easystreet does because I think the licence for that is way too expensive for what it provides. Besides this now that spinlyzer is dead there's a need for statistics software like tracking chipev vs fish / regs, determining best hours from your own data. Calculating multiplier variance etc

These are mostly from the top of my head, people can probably come up with a lot more ideas / needs.

So what do you guys think about pooling some money and paying a programmer to make these open source?

I'm thinking something like 50 $ per hour, record all development for tracking work hours and generally not getting ripped off.

The automatic swapper took me under 50h real work hours so that would put it at 2500$, if stables join in on this i think we can share development cost over 200+ people for measly sums considering the software will be open source.

Obviously I'm posting this because I'd be interested to work on such software but don't really care if you guys chose someone else (Max Cut maybe?) that would be cheaper / better / whatever. I'm fine with continuing to work/ grind spins, would just consider this some aditional variance free income. I just think these tools would be really valuable and the cost to the community would be small for what they bring.
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