Thanks man.

I will follow solid BR management and give my best to go from €1 to €100 by the end of 2022

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Anyone have an idea how many people are playing spins compared to say, 6-max NLHE on Pokerstars?

I'm interested in knowing what kind of "market share" spins have.

If I go on stars, I can see like 1000 tables on NLHE cash going, but I can't tell how many spins are going because it doesn't show them all.

at peak times i would say there's more players in spins than in cash (inc zoom). Impossible to say for sure but in micros to low stakes you never have to wait more than 10 seconds for a game

Hey, I was a spin&go player few years ago. There was a site that we could see player's results and it was public. If I remember correctly it was called 'spinlyzer.com'.

If someone who works at Pokerstars sees this I would like to request that it would be a huge net positive for everyone if they could make themselves or partner up to create a website like that so that no HH are mined from a random russian or other third party but we could still have spin&go results public again. One who prefers anonymity could opt-out with stars (******) instead of their screen name before the results.

It was good to be able to see what type of winnings one could achieve back then and now people are just in a whole darkness if the games are even beatable anymore. Not being able to check should not be an option imo.

I urge poker community who like to play on PS to write to them if you've have this similar concern.

I advocated for this idea for many years. Most players don't care either way and the sites have no real interest in this. Winning players are largely very much opposed to this, they don't want to risk having more regs join profitable games, even with the potential for many more casual players/higher interest/higher potential profit. I don't blame them, but if you consider what things would look like if nobody could see MTT prize money... yea. It's just another potential way to popularize the game that is lost due to anonymity.

i just sit down to grind and find out can it be profitable
don't have time nor do i care looking up others results

used to have SS hud displaying results at the tables.
often gave wayyy too much respekk for some uplookin graphs results but the matter fact was that they were just doing slightly less mistakes than recs.

as a matter of fact, i dont use any huds whatsoever anymore. 6tables, keepin track well, playing better than ever before.

Actually you can quite easily find the results of everyone in an EV pool such as steel phoenix or hyperschool by using the spinlead app/software. The pools consist of thousands of players from micro to highstakes so should give a good idea of what type of results are achievable.

These are the results for stars.com for the past 12 months.



But you need to remember that basically all the stars players are getting tons of RB on spins. I don't play spins anymore and don't plan to but I remember my best month was $28k by grinding 8k games in a month with like 35ish cev on 100s and getting 2x$8k 40% RB challenge (and cheap black chests for a while coz I just started grinding on stars again then) a bit over a year ago. In a standard month I'd grind 4k games for 1 of the challenges and if I broke even in money with say 20-30ish cev or whatever it'd still be a good $8-15k.

So yeah I'd say there's still money to be made in spins and always will be. Not too sure I'd enjoy the whole lobby system at highstakes or the fact that the only way to get a good spins education is by joining a stable or the fact it's probably the most repetitive form of poker and (probably) the easiest for humans to memorize GTO-wise, and mainly about good volume at some point but yeah, pros and cons to everything I guess. If you have good work ethic and discipline spins is prolly one of the easiest ways to make a good living in poker.

Great post sir.

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Thank you for sharing Xpt, I totally forgot about the pools, great stuff.

So those are the average winrates fo spin regulars? Looks really low, especially in the micro stakes. I guess spins are the perfect games when you only need a little bit of steady money.
Making 500-1000$ per month isnt very hard but anything more is quite the challenge I guess. Stars should by far be the hardest site right?

nope, GG and party have lower cev, but they got better rakeback. Rakeback is now the main way to make money in spins on every site so cev numbers really don't mean as much as before.

When choosing what site to play, depends on what you want imo.

Stars = good mix of regs and recs, no volume leaderboard but some RNG leaderboard, rake chase in form of monthly challenges, HUD use allowed. Decently low rake and rakeback can be decent to very good depending on if you get 10% or 40% challenge. Overall balanced site which should suit everyone decent but maybe another site may be better for your specific wants/needs.

Winamax = softest site but also highest rake. HUD use allowed. Top heavy daily leaderboards where if you finish in top 3 it could be a decent chunk of extra rakeback % overall. Best for either max exploit players who want to game select and play vs weak players more OR heavy grinders who want to get consistent top 3 finishes (which means you prolly wanna grind hard a few days of the week then take some days off). Rakeback is medium to good depending on your leaderboard placing.

Partypoker = Most reg infested site, no HUD use allowed. But decently low rake and best rakeback. They have daily leaderboards but don't think they add so much to overall RB %. Good for players who like reg battling, playing a more GTO style and just putting in consistent volume but not necessarily going all out in one day for daily leaderboards.

GGPoker = Never played on GG but know a few people who told me they had their best months ever on GG so can't be that bad. From what I see, high rake but high rakeback with more balanced daily leaderboards which add a decent % to rakeback + you should have an affiliate deal. But they only offer flashes and no HUD use allowed. So I guess good for people who like playing flashes and putting in high volume, not sure whether their leaderboards are worth going for on daily basis (prolly are to some extent).

So basically, all major options are competitive and offer their advantages and disadvantages.

Above is mostly just my opinion.

Thank you for providing details.


They offer 25bb stack if the multiplier is 10x or more iirc.

They offer 25bb stack if the multiplier is 5x or more.

ar3 flash sp8ns only beatable with RB

Pretty much yeah volume and high rb.

Good evening everyone, excuse me in advance for my bad English, I don't really know if this comment can be made in this thread. but I would like to ask you a question I would like to have already heard. First of all I am a player recreating for a year in freerom tournaments of 888poker but for things in life and I stopped playing more than anything because of how bad I was for the covi, putting away all the past, I would like to know that you would recommend me spins and go or mtt considering I am a new player with little or no foundation in professional poker. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

start with lowest stakes of spins.
progress.
avoid MTTs for a while, atleast until bankroll is bit fatty

I know this sub-forum has been a bit dead recently. But it's a new year full of new possibilities! So post some hands people, I'll be trying to reply to all new HH posts at least for the next few days (offer expires around Jan 10, but who knows maybe I'll just keep going once I get some momentum lol).

Party Poker is the most reg infested site for every single gametype including spins

Every site is reg infested unless Eastern Europeans are not allowed to play there.

Yatahay Network - 10/20 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 10 BB
BTN: 23 BB
Hero (SB): 42 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K Q

BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero?

BB had just lost a big pot and was being loose. Button seemed like a reasonable player relative to the 2 dollar limits.

3bs seems reasonable then imo.

Pretty strd jam pre. With 25/25/12 stacks KQs is a jam pre and your situation is pretty much that.