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07-09-2019 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by silky28
I would imagine ROI would only be affected by either higher rake or dramatically decreased odds at hitting the multipliers...
decreasing the odds of hitting the multipliers won't have any effect on ROI assuming 100% of the prize pool is still paid out overall
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07-10-2019 , 05:43 AM
Hi guys,

I`m looking for stat in PT4 - cEV vs player.
If anyone have it and want to share/sell let me know
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07-10-2019 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by termbest
Hi guys,

I`m looking for stat in PT4 - cEV vs player.
If anyone have it and want to share/sell let me know
You just add player name to a report as well as cEV. Then it splits them all up per row. Use filters to get only HU hands or only hands in which you were involved etc.
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07-11-2019 , 04:13 AM
Pokerstars changing the frequency and type of multipliers and not updating it on their page for spinngos is just typical of them last few years. I still get sad though lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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07-11-2019 , 07:20 AM
The page has been updated since the changes went live.
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07-11-2019 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by S Georgiev


140k chips over ev on 8k games sample? Solid godrun, must feel good
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07-13-2019 , 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffreyPL1
140k chips over ev on 8k games sample? Solid godrun, must feel good
yea until 500's balanced it
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07-14-2019 , 12:39 PM
The spin&go prize pools seem to have changed, now with 3x instead of 4x. I can't access the international version. However, pokerstars automatically redirects to my countries version of the site, which has not been updated. Can anyone paste a picture of the different probabilities for 30$ and 40$? ♥
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07-14-2019 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mumming
The spin&go prize pools seem to have changed, now with 3x instead of 4x. I can't access the international version. However, pokerstars automatically redirects to my countries version of the site, which has not been updated. Can anyone paste a picture of the different probabilities for 30$ and 40$? ♥
I don't see $40s on the UK site, but here are the $30s old (April) and new:

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07-15-2019 , 01:06 AM
Thanks Haven't hit anything over 150$ yet in my 250 games. But hitting lots of 3x, so that's nice compared to before where it was all 2x or 4x.
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07-15-2019 , 06:49 PM
How long do you usually grind? or grinded when you were starting? I want to grind some volume on $1 spins to go to $3 in a month (summer break), my BR now sits at $224, planning on moving up around $400

this are my lifetime results


but Ive only played 186 spins ($1) this last week, which is already more than what I played the rest of this year.

I play 4 tables but sometimes drop to 3/2 for short periods of times since I get overwhelmed if Im playing 4 heads up. Currently average like ~36spins/h. But I get really bored/tired after an hour, longest session this last days was 2 hours.

My brain stamina should be fine, I play chess (class A player) and im used to playing 2-3 day tournaments where I'm playing for over 4 hours each day, should I just increase slowly the time and not focus on my month deadline? or how did you do it when u first started out ?
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07-16-2019 , 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by EcoT
How long do you usually grind? or grinded when you were starting? I want to grind some volume on $1 spins to go to $3 in a month (summer break), my BR now sits at $224, planning on moving up around $400

this are my lifetime results


but Ive only played 186 spins ($1) this last week, which is already more than what I played the rest of this year.

I play 4 tables but sometimes drop to 3/2 for short periods of times since I get overwhelmed if Im playing 4 heads up. Currently average like ~36spins/h. But I get really bored/tired after an hour, longest session this last days was 2 hours.

My brain stamina should be fine, I play chess (class A player) and im used to playing 2-3 day tournaments where I'm playing for over 4 hours each day, should I just increase slowly the time and not focus on my month deadline? or how did you do it when u first started out ?
If you got money to spend try brain boosters supplements or CBD oil (which actually can be also classified as a booster). IMO they can help a lot.

Also one simple trick I think is trying different music while playing and care about a good sleep
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07-16-2019 , 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffreyPL1
If you got money to spend try brain boosters supplements or CBD oil (which actually can be also classified as a booster). IMO they can help a lot.

Also one simple trick I think is trying different music while playing and care about a good sleep
which brain booster are u talking about ?
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07-16-2019 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by youngdaggerdick
which brain booster are u talking about ?
I can`t say exactly as it`s individual thing. It`s best to use a help of dietician and adjust products you need/doses so they work best for ya. Anyway I`m talking about for example alhpa gpc, l-theanine, huperzine, vinpocetine and also adaptogens like ashwagandha. You can also try some nootropic stacks (which contains different substances).
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07-20-2019 , 01:26 AM
How much Chip EV / game do I need to reach in order to beat
the new Expresso Nitro games at Winamax?

300 starting chips / 7 % rake
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07-20-2019 , 08:39 AM
its ~22.5 assuming you will get a fair share of multis lifetime

with a bit more realistic approach and 10% effective rake its ~33.3, 12% effective ~40.9
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07-21-2019 , 06:18 PM
Got my ass handed to me playing jackpot spin and goes on ignition it just didn't seem mathematically accurate like these guys or the bots I was playing would have 3 4 and win the hand or raise every hand I probably played 25-30 + games and won maybe six or seven on a few occasions I paid the $7 and lost the $35 game 4-5x and lost one $105 game after making it to the second position and being in the lead by a couple hundred each time I'm a beginner so I know I make mistakes but I try to stay within the my range it's just kind of crazy very discouraging
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07-25-2019 , 07:46 AM
Has anyone built up a sample grinding those Nitros yet? Seems like a pure rakeback grinders dream.
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07-25-2019 , 02:17 PM
Is these spin n gos on stars also full of bots? I kno hyper turbo HUSNG is full of them, cant they just play average until heads up and then apply the bots since 25bb heads up is a solved game? is it still beatable at the high levels?

Do you need a GTO heads up bot to survive in the higher stakes?
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07-26-2019 , 06:59 AM
No they are not full of bots, pokerstars has the best security around, maybe theres one or two bots at each stake, but people are being frozen and asked to prove they are real via live plays all the time, same with HUSNG there was a big bot problem which was uncovered and everyone banned, i imagine there could be 1 or 2 bots at HU hypers, but regs are pretty good at realizing these people quickly as the community is smaller and people can talk about weird hands they may of played vs a suspected bot. No you do not need a GTO hu bot to survive high stakes.
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07-28-2019 , 08:02 AM
How do you know none of those regs arent using assistance from a bot?
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07-28-2019 , 09:25 AM
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How do you know none of those regs arent using assistance from a bot?
By analyzing their play?
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07-29-2019 , 01:53 AM
How much less variance does cEV have compared to evroi?

I have a chip ev of 36 after only 450 spins which is making me believe I suck at these games. I know it's a tiny sample to look at evroi but is it also a very small sample to look at chip ev?
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07-29-2019 , 03:22 AM
ev roi is meaningless because it is based on the multipliers you got and how you ran into them

chip ev is directly correlated to spin ev roi
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07-29-2019 , 08:06 AM
I noticed theres a $3 payout for $1 buy-in spin go i dont recall ever seeing that before, do they have new payouts for all levels or is it some temporary thing?
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