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03-21-2010 , 07:38 PM
Some sort of mechanism for "Sit open lobby at X stakes" would be nice to avoid accidentally sitting at the same time as another reg.
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03-22-2010 , 01:38 AM
Just finished a game, went to make a note on my opponent by double clicking their avatar on the rematch screen. Nothing happened.

Maybe add a feature where you can add notes in the rematch screen??
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03-22-2010 , 07:15 AM
get rid of the unlimited open lobby system where you see 10+ players waiting in line at times. don't make it 1 lobby per limit like stars, instead max it out at 2 or 3. also, instant ban hammer for people who time down every hand on purpose.

Last edited by sbfootball_84; 03-22-2010 at 07:23 AM.
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03-22-2010 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by GiMMeDoHs
Maybe add a feature where you can add notes in the rematch screen??
or in the lobby even.
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03-22-2010 , 02:39 PM
+1 on doing something about people timing down just to be an idiot, and not because he has a hard decision to make.
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03-23-2010 , 12:05 PM
Put the chat window in the rematch dialog. Be useful to persuade them to rematch you, 'I was lucky', 'best of 3?' etc.
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03-23-2010 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GiMMeDoHs
Just finished a game, went to make a note on my opponent by double clicking their avatar on the rematch screen. Nothing happened.

Maybe add a feature where you can add notes in the rematch screen??
pretty pretty please do this
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03-23-2010 , 02:01 PM
Btw, I'll echo what everyone else has said about setting up a system that lets friends play each other much more easily at the $1 stakes for fun.
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03-24-2010 , 01:37 PM
I dont know if its been said but i would LOVE the fact that you CANT chat in observer chat if you dont have at least one buyin for the table
i dont even play high stakes and i would love this, i guess that high stakes players are sick of people begging for money
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03-25-2010 , 03:53 AM
Okay, so you want King of the Hill? This is the most stupid proposal I´ve seen in the like 14 pages of this thread. There are NEVER 10+ players waiting, mostly 2-4, max like 6-7, and that is at the $100+5 games, lower stakes have virtually no waiting list. There are very good reasons for not wanting King of the Hill, I´m sure you can figure them out yourself. I would support like a 10-max waiting list, but the waiting list is just not a problem that needs addressing.


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Originally Posted by sbfootball_84
get rid of the unlimited open lobby system where you see 10+ players waiting in line at times. don't make it 1 lobby per limit like stars, instead max it out at 2 or 3. also, instant ban hammer for people who time down every hand on purpose.
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03-25-2010 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Nezh
Okay, so you want King of the Hill? This is the most stupid proposal I´ve seen in the like 14 pages of this thread. There are NEVER 10+ players waiting, mostly 2-4, max like 6-7, and that is at the $100+5 games, lower stakes have virtually no waiting list. There are very good reasons for not wanting King of the Hill, I´m sure you can figure them out yourself. I would support like a 10-max waiting list, but the waiting list is just not a problem that needs addressing.
i never liked King of the Hill...was always a fan of simpsons, family guy, south park, but i could never get into king of the hill.
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03-25-2010 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nezh
Okay, so you want King of the Hill? This is the most stupid proposal I´ve seen in the like 14 pages of this thread. There are NEVER 10+ players waiting, mostly 2-4, max like 6-7, and that is at the $100+5 games, lower stakes have virtually no waiting list. There are very good reasons for not wanting King of the Hill, I´m sure you can figure them out yourself. I would support like a 10-max waiting list, but the waiting list is just not a problem that needs addressing.
It's not a dumb preference, there are plenty of advantages to Stars' lobby system.
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03-25-2010 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mersenneary
It's not a dumb preference, there are plenty of advantages to Stars' lobby system.

Such as?
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03-25-2010 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Nezh
Such as?
Good players that want to play now don't have to decide between playing the other 8 regs sitting there game selecting or waiting 20 minutes for a fish.

They sit first on Stars, get some regs, but mostly fish, but most importantly they get a game right away.

You don't need to reward people who don't want to play.

It's one thing to practice good bankroll management and not play people that crush you (or degen up stakes), but it's another to use the system as a crutch for never improving your game.

The 8 regs you see, odds are each one would have an edge over another one. Over time, they would all have clear edges. They avoid each other because it is not worth it to them, but it's only not worth it because of the system put in place.

I'm not saying FTP needs to change their system, but if Stars changed theirs I'd be pretty upset. I think the Stars one is superior, but I like that both sites have different setups. Nobody can complain. If you hate either one, play at the other site, they both have plenty of action and relatively equally skilled playerbases.
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03-26-2010 , 09:37 PM
At Stars it´s always a race to get the free seat once Shark1 has got a game. You need to be fast or Shark2 will take the seat, or you simultaneously sit and are playing a zero, slightly negative, or slightly positive EV game that will last the same time you spend on FT waiting for a Fish to sit. FT gives you the best of both worlds: wanna play a reg, go ahead. Wanna wait for a Fish, go ahead. But that´s not the same as stating the stars system has plenty of advantages over the FT system , as Mersenary did.
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03-27-2010 , 03:23 AM
I mean, it's pretty clear plenty of people prefer the Stars system. Thus, it's not the stupidest proposal in the thread. That's all I was saying. You don't think the Stars system has advantages because of your preferences, but other people like different things. The Stars system doesn't lead to the long lines waiting that aren't particularly fish-welcoming, and it discourages the excessive "I want to sit first but not get sat by a reg" politicking on FTP.

I don't want to distract the thread though, it's enough to say that some people like one and some people like the other.
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03-28-2010 , 06:54 PM
1. Decrease the 2.15$ level to 2.10$ so that players who just started playing go to the 5.25$ games faster.

2. When the rematch window pops up, if I'm writing a note and press the Space bar, it automatically accepts the rematch. It's quite annoying. For example: you get all-in, take a note on how your opponent played that last hand and suddenly the rematch window pops up and because you were typing, it has accepted for you. This could be solved by either making the rematch option a checkbox (in the window) instead of a button or allowing to decline once you have accepted or disabling keyboard shortcuts like the Space bar or the Enter button.

3. Password protecting a HUSNG would be fantastic. Just add a checkbox below the "Register similar SNG if this one fills up" field (not sure what the real label is). If you are second to act, you get the password input box instead of the checkbox. Obviously that would require a different icon on the lobby not to piss off anyone.


Thanks for your time FTP Doug, looking forward to any update you do.
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03-28-2010 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sbfootball_84
i never liked King of the Hill...was always a fan of simpsons, family guy, south park, but i could never get into king of the hill.
same
KotH is more for rednecks/texans
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03-29-2010 , 03:54 AM
Change the rake on the $40+3 Reg Speed 4-mans and the $44+3 turbo 4-mans to $40+2.5 and $44+2.5 respectively, in line with 6.25% std rake for those. I know you add more than standard rake for some of the lower stakes ones, but that should be high enough for people to not have to deal with it, imo. Dominated satellites where the rake is too high like the current $70+5 or $24+2 4-man (compare to $80+5 or $22+1.5 4-man that gives you real $ instead of T$ too) are also kind of lame.
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03-29-2010 , 06:50 PM
How about a universal rake schedule (expressed as a percentage) per game-type, with a cap?

Having some limits which are rake ripoffs seems silly.

Having a turbo HUSNG with $30 rake also seems silly.
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03-30-2010 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nicecatch08
superturbos are terrible longterm for husngs. Before they existed, I would get rematched so often. Now, my opponents tilt off the rest of their money at Superturbos, therefore losing it faster, therefore bad for the site.

Already cosigned for adding another table against the same opponent(this is HUGE)

Including us in the promotions would be great since we get busted by the rake. Or have our own promotion of some sort. Sounds reasonable

As you can see Doug, none of these things are unreasonable. As a programmer, I know that some enhancements take time, but promo's, rake/structure adjustments, and firing 2 tables instead of just one can't be too hard.

Imagine how much more rake FTP could get if we could invite opponents to play more than one table at once( you should be drooling ).
+1
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03-30-2010 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by r1tony
No way FTP takes away the HU Super turbos or even changes the rake/structure... until the idiots stop filling them like wildfire. Look at the rush ante games they were gone within a day when they had close to no players on the tables.

Bottom line FTP is making a ton of money on them and why would they care if they are beatable or not when they are the ones winning.
i like the argument said earlier here - if poker is moving towards a casino and not towards a skilled play - many countries will make problems in changing their laws and this would def. be very very bad for FTP and other poker sites.
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03-30-2010 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mersenneary
Nah. It's silly, but it's not that bad.

Oh, and FTPDoug, something simple: Make it so that we can see who is registered in a HUSNG lobby without opening it? I'd rather not open every lobby to see who the eight bumhunters are today at the $100s, if I could see this just by highlighting the tournament, that would be great if it's doable.
mers is great! +1
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03-30-2010 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FTPDoug
Hi all,

Thanks for the feedback so far, keep it coming.

Some quick responses that may or may not help the discussion:

- I'm with you, it's a great idea. It's down on the list of ideas. I don't know when we'll get to it, but we will get to it eventually.


- This is coming as a new widget. I'm not sure exactly when, but I know it's being worked on.
doug it is already a big step into the right direction to discuss with the poker crowd.

however i really do not understand why some small features like the ones asked for should be so difficult or time consuming to implement. i know programming quite well and considered the huge profits for FTP as a whole it must be really peanuts to add some.

how about opening your information policy and communicate openly a list of future features with a target date? of course you still could keep your secrets about new games or strategic stuff.
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03-30-2010 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sejje
Do fish really care about double points? Do happy hours, for instance, see more volume than other times?
i think we have to stick to important issues rather than these little gimmicks that do not really change anything.

the huge problems really are:
- unfair substantially higher rake for HU SNGs
- "no" promotions for HU SNGs (do a separate one if difficult to include in other SNG promos)
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