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08-09-2012 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by genher
I am working on a much better one.

Instead of showing your EV this one will show the %PFR required for EV=0 and EV=1.
>0EV is better than folding. >1BB and 3 bet will likely be the best play. therefore, in between, would indicate that calling is probably the best play as EV of a call is likely between 0 and 1 (that's a bit simplified but you get the idea). Obv still taking into account card removal and stuffs.
This information will be much more valuable then just the EV of a 3 bet shove.

As for the calling ranges, I can now (thanks to the alias trick from tigerjack89) get more exact ranges for different critical stack sizes. From there I should be able to get a few pretty accurate loose, average and tight ranges for different critical stack sizes.

So I probably will do 3 or 4 options (from loose to tight) and the ranges will automatically be suggested depending on stack size. So for instance if you classify your player as loose it will suggest a loose range at 20 BB (obtain from the general population sample) but at 15BB it will suggest an even looser range and so on. That should be pretty cool.

Would people be interested in this? Thoughts? Suggestions?
This would be beyond awesome
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08-11-2012 , 10:26 PM
yea im also interested in new chart with flatting ranges
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08-22-2012 , 04:52 PM
This looks really cool, but I'm having toruble opening it. When I downloaded it from the link it was a compressed zip file: inside that was a file called '3_bet_shove_calc_v5_01.7z' and the file format is 7Z - when I click on it, it says windows can't open the file.

Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
Thanks.
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08-22-2012 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by I<3Poker
yes that. Thanks I<3Poker.
I stupidly zipped the file b4 to send it to HUSNG.com and then they zipped it again. so it's double zipped
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08-23-2012 , 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by I<3Poker
Thanks - I've got it now. This should be fun to use
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08-23-2012 , 10:56 AM
Another query, this time about the tutorial video. At 1:54 you say it says fold equity is calculated thus: % of hands villain calls shove with / PFR.

However, in the next (slide?), the FE is calculated as 100%-(call shove % / PFR).

Not sure if I've spotted a mistake, but should I be using the second version (which subtracts from 100%) when I want to calculate FE (as opposed to the formula at 1:54)?

Thanks again.
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08-23-2012 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by N__M
Another query, this time about the tutorial video. At 1:54 you say it says fold equity is calculated thus: % of hands villain calls shove with / PFR.

However, in the next (slide?), the FE is calculated as 100%-(call shove % / PFR).

Not sure if I've spotted a mistake, but should I be using the second version (which subtracts from 100%) when I want to calculate FE (as opposed to the formula at 1:54)?

Thanks again.
Yes you are right, I was trying to stay simple and that bit is not very clear. % of hands villain calls shove with / PFR will give you how many times villain calls and therefore 100%-that how many times he folds. That can, then, be used to calculate the FE. I Hope that's clearer.
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08-25-2012 , 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by genher
Yes you are right, I was trying to stay simple and that bit is not very clear. % of hands villain calls shove with / PFR will give you how many times villain calls and therefore 100%-that how many times he folds. That can, then, be used to calculate the FE. I Hope that's clearer.
Thanks, that's cleared things up. This calc is really useful, but I've got two last Qs on it:

1. When I input identical values into this calc and the steve balog endgame one I get different results - I saw you mention this somewhere. Is this due entirely to the Balog one not taking card removal into account?
2. Have you ever thought about making a calc where you could configure your opponent's calling range? In this one you have the preset profiles which do a good job, but what about one where you could specify what % of hands he calls with?

Thanks again.
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08-25-2012 , 10:18 AM
1. I believe so. Insanesteve did a great job with his 3 bet spreadsheet. it was the starting point for this. The formulas should be the same. if you have any doubt about a calc let me know and I will check it with CREV

2. Difficult, as the equity vs the calling range is OBV pre calculated (it's a spreadsheet) but I am trying to get better sets of ranges. The new idea is to extract sets of ranges for the general population in my database (and someone's else). May be something like tight/average/loose ranges but then having them changing depending on the stack size.

unfortunately I have been busy at the moment. I have already changed the calculator so he shows the minimum PFR for EV=0(3bet shove better than folding) and EV=1 (3 bet shove likely better than calling) instead of just the Eq of a 3 bet shoves. That works pretty well

I have started working on the data to extract better ranges but it's not as straight forward as it seems and time consuming. I also haven't decided if I want make it public anyways.
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09-01-2012 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by genher
1. I believe so. Insanesteve did a great job with his 3 bet spreadsheet. it was the starting point for this. The formulas should be the same. if you have any doubt about a calc let me know and I will check it with CREV

2. Difficult, as the equity vs the calling range is OBV pre calculated (it's a spreadsheet) but I am trying to get better sets of ranges. The new idea is to extract sets of ranges for the general population in my database (and someone's else). May be something like tight/average/loose ranges but then having them changing depending on the stack size.

unfortunately I have been busy at the moment. I have already changed the calculator so he shows the minimum PFR for EV=0(3bet shove better than folding) and EV=1 (3 bet shove likely better than calling) instead of just the Eq of a 3 bet shoves. That works pretty well

How do you find the minimum PFR for EV = 0? That sounds awesome(!) I believe I have the latest excel version of the calc from HUSNG but can't find anywhere where I can find out how much villain must raise PF for 0 EV.

I have started working on the data to extract better ranges but it's not as straight forward as it seems and time consuming. I also haven't decided if I want make it public anyways.
Thanks for your reply. Your new ranges project sounds really cool; if you don't want to make it public for free you could always put it up for sale I guess. GL with whatever you choose
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09-17-2012 , 02:09 PM
when I open it with OO I just get 3k pages of random numbers and letters...
Anyone has an idea what could be wrong?
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09-17-2012 , 02:45 PM
Did you open it with OO Calc?
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09-17-2012 , 03:28 PM
Have you enabled macros?
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09-17-2012 , 03:41 PM
it automaticly opens the text document even if I drag it into the spreadsheet...
The thing where I can activate the macros doesnt pop up
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09-17-2012 , 03:48 PM
i tried again now it works to open it with the oo.calc but just shows random numbers, theres no sign coming up about activating macros.

When I open the other file with excel there is a sign asking me to activate macros, i pressed ok but it says the file is damaged or something like that...
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09-19-2012 , 09:41 AM
Thanks for nice tool.
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12-11-2012 , 07:04 AM
Link to download? I cant find in HUSNG
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12-11-2012 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ntelis
Link to download? I cant find in HUSNG
http://www.husng.com/content/free-so...ity-calculator
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12-11-2012 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Lord Ralphs
i tried again now it works to open it with the oo.calc but just shows random numbers, theres no sign coming up about activating macros.

When I open the other file with excel there is a sign asking me to activate macros, i pressed ok but it says the file is damaged or something like that...
I never actually saw this post sorry. PM me if you still have problems with that
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05-17-2013 , 08:55 PM
Im having problem running this 3bet shove calc offered by HU sng.

Maybe im just ******o but can ne one give me a quick walk through on running this progam ty.

I open the file and its just text which is fine but after that im clueless thanx.
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05-17-2013 , 11:09 PM
Do you mean you have problem running it or understanding how to use it?
if it's running it PM me your skype
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05-18-2013 , 10:12 AM
pmd thanx!
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05-28-2013 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LimpinDonk
pmd thanx!
ok all fixed
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07-29-2013 , 11:18 AM
Nice works!

I have a problem,I have hm1 ,where can I find the stat on hud call 3bet shove,I see only call 3bet.

tysm.
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