That's not adjusting to your style, that's copying your style. Adjusting could be starting to call wider than they would against somebody who 3xes because you're giving them better odds to call.
So start 7x-ing and when you raise and they fold to your CB, you will win a bigger pot than when they 3x and you fold to their CB. When they are pretty smart though and get what you're trying to do, they will adjust and start 11x-ing. Snap-counter that by 13x-ing. If he starts 18x-ing after that, you know the levelling war has begun. Ultimately, you both will be shoving all hands pre and if you use Nash, you're unbeatable.
NB: Make sure you count the steps though, you have to be the first one who opens with Nash. If he gets to the Nash-level first, there's no way you can ever catch up with him because Nash = Max-EV!
you should listen to this guy, hes a nuclear engineer.
Last edited by raised by jews; 02-21-2011 at 08:36 AM.
Reason: or maybe a physicst or something like that. all i know is hes really smart and obv. knows nash :P...and sarcasm!
i honestly think the best rule for what to bet preflop is based on stack sizes. 30 BBs or deeper you should 3x, 20-30 BBs 2.5x and 20-under 2x/shove or limp (i say limp here because i never really limp until stacks are very shallow. it might be a leak, but i really doubt it, and if it is GFY).
further rules would be game speed. in deepstacks at certain stakes many villains love to be lagtarded (yes this is the appropriate term because they are so ****ing stupid about it and GFY if your PC about these things) and will 3bet wide, well in this case im stubborn (i never admit defeat) and I will continue to 3x because we are so ****ing deep that I dont care about the very FEW times that I fold to their 3bets early game because when I 4bet (it will be a huge 4bet for value based on hand strength) they almost always call (which is sad because im only 4betting 5% of my hands early game, and if you have a problem with not "balancing my range" then your trying to sound smarter than you are).
In turbos its different because you get morons and MTT regs that think they are preflop geniuses (didnt spell check that so GFY if you call me dumb for mispelling that) and think it is apropriate to 3bet ATCs. In turbos minraising is best unless you have reads that say otherwise (I had reads earlier today that villain would call ATCs EVERY hand up to 5 BBs, and would actually call higher on occasion, and would NEVER 3bet pre), because you will get 3bet so much more often.
in reg speeds its player dependant, but go by the rule i said in the first paragraph.
/thread, i dont wanna see any more on this.
So start 7x-ing and when you raise and they fold to your CB, you will win a bigger pot than when they 3x and you fold to their CB. When they are pretty smart though and get what you're trying to do, they will adjust and start 11x-ing. Snap-counter that by 13x-ing. If he starts 18x-ing after that, you know the levelling war has begun. Ultimately, you both will be shoving all hands pre and if you use Nash, you're unbeatable.
NB: Make sure you count the steps though, you have to be the first one who opens with Nash. If he gets to the Nash-level first, there's no way you can ever catch up with him because Nash = Max-EV!
i honestly think the best rule for what to bet preflop is based on stack sizes. 30 BBs or deeper you should 3x, 20-30 BBs 2.5x and 20-under 2x/shove or limp (i say limp here because i never really limp until stacks are very shallow. it might be a leak, but i really doubt it, and if it is GFY).
further rules would be game speed. in deepstacks at certain stakes many villains love to be lagtarded (yes this is the appropriate term because they are so ****ing stupid about it and GFY if your PC about these things) and will 3bet wide, well in this case im stubborn (i never admit defeat) and I will continue to 3x because we are so ****ing deep that I dont care about the very FEW times that I fold to their 3bets early game because when I 4bet (it will be a huge 4bet for value based on hand strength) they almost always call (which is sad because im only 4betting 5% of my hands early game, and if you have a problem with not "balancing my range" then your trying to sound smarter than you are).
In turbos its different because you get morons and MTT regs that think they are preflop geniuses (didnt spell check that so GFY if you call me dumb for mispelling that) and think it is apropriate to 3bet ATCs. In turbos minraising is best unless you have reads that say otherwise (I had reads earlier today that villain would call ATCs EVERY hand up to 5 BBs, and would actually call higher on occasion, and would NEVER 3bet pre), because you will get 3bet so much more often.
in reg speeds its player dependant, but go by the rule i said in the first paragraph.
/thread, i dont wanna see any more on this.