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12-26-2020 , 02:42 PM

pensodasolo

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PokerStars - 15/30 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 17.83 BB
Hero (BB): 32.17 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8

SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 7

Hero checks, SB bets 1.5 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Turn: (7 BB, 2 players) T

Hero checks, SB checks

River: (7 BB, 2 players) A

Hero ?

what do you think of the flop call? what would you do on the river?
thanks.
If you check the river and oppo bets halp, what would you do?

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12-27-2020 , 04:19 AM

Duncelanas

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I feel like it would be helpful for you to include more of your own thought process rather than just posting some random hand and asking what you should do.

Flop seems pretty whatever to me, probably could do some field analysis and figure out what action is maxev. If you're check/folding this otr then what are you calling? We have basically no Ax here. K8 will be one of our best hands and this is quite an easy spot for sb to bluff. If checking I would basically always call without some extremely strong reads.

I'm a bit too rusty to know whether or not leading river is a thing here. Not sure tbh.

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12-27-2020 , 06:36 AM

pensodasolo

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I decided to call given the kicker, but according to the solver the flop has to ber aised and the river shoved.

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12-27-2020 , 08:00 AM

none888

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I also think flop is kinda whatever, I would xraise tho.
As played Id bet river for sure, not big, something like 1/2 pot.
Like Dunce said, I dont think we can x/fold river without superstrong reads so I rather choose my sizing I will lose vs Ax and in the same time we can easily value bet.

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12-27-2020 , 10:21 AM

pensodasolo

grinder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duncelanas

thanks. the x/F was never in my mind. the problem was leading or not the river.
I think it is a good spot for oppo to bluff so I checked. But instead we are supposed to shove here.

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12-27-2020 , 10:28 AM

none888

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what? Its very hard to believe gto is overbet shoving this river, in gto this is most likely blockbet, meaning betting something like 25-50% of the pot, ok not this particular hand I believe it would be xraise otf, but somethin like K3o

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12-27-2020 , 10:42 AM

pensodasolo

grinder

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yeah sorry, i overlooked the result of the solver, we are supposed to bet 150 or pot....

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12-27-2020 , 02:06 PM

Duncelanas

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Yeah I definitely expected this hand to play some calls and some raises otf in gto (hence thinking flop is whatever, both options seem fine).

Overbetting river seems quite strange to me, like none I would have expected this hand to block when it bets. The A seems like a pretty bad card for us and 2nd pairs don't usually make it into a polar range like that.

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