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Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole ,700 from me Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole ,700 from me

07-27-2012 , 03:42 PM
(English cliffs are below)

Resumen -Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" acuerda en un intercambio de dinero donde yo le mando ~$6,000 en MoneyBookers y el me mandaria mediante transferencia bancaria
-Le mando en MoneyBookers y Maxi miente acerca de mandarme su transferencia bancaria.
-Maxi deposita toda el dinero en PokerStars,agrandandose acerca de tener un "6k roll." Ah jugado bajo los nicks Rastafari726 y Beats4You.
-Ahora Maxi admite que nunca envio su transferencia. Asegura que me va a pagar mi dinero pero es evasivo,siempre dicienndome historias ilogicas y gastando mucho tiempo antes de respodnder los mensajes a pesar de que constantemente esta online,siempre actualizando su FB y grindeando casi todo el dia en PS con my dinero.

Resumen actualizado: - Como Maxi era menor de edad en el tiempo de la estafa no podia usar MB o PS en su nombre.
El 20 de Junio, Maxi tambien arreglo con una tercera persona para hacer una trasnferencia de MB a PS,esa tercera persona es Santiago (Elpivesabe)
-Me hizo mandarle al MB de Santiago, quien despues mando el dinero a la cuenta que Maxi estaba jugando (Rastafari726). Santiago es un profesional de poker y no estaba al tanto que estaba asistiendo con la estafa,solo estaba haciendo una trasnferencia con Maxi.
-En una breve aprariencia de Maxi en el thread, invento una historia acerca de como Santiago era el unico responsable de mandarme el dinero (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=114).
-Maxi photoshopeo una conversacion de Skype (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=125) que tuve con el. Fue confirmado pronto que esa conversacion fue photoshopeada (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=190).
-Nadie cre la historia sinsentido de Maxi y un par de dias despues,Santiago postea la verdad acerca de lo que paso (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=321).
-La cuenta de PS que Maxi estaba jugando en el momento,pertenecia a otro Argentino,Imbrogno, quien presto a Maxi su cnta para jugar. Imbrogno tenia ~$850 en la cuenta,pendiente para retirar mediante Neteller. Hasta recivir el contro del la cuenta, Maxi cancela el retiro de Neteller y transfier todo el dinero en la cuenta a alguien quien le dio el dinero en efectivo,en persona. Imbrogno cuenta la historia completa aqui : (http://es.pokerstrategy.com/forum/th...hreadid=249735) y aqui : (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...ochyk-1228803/)
- En el transcurso del thread, varios foreros descubrieron varias otras estafas e intentos de estafas,que maxi hizo en el pasado:

-http://forobeta.com/off-topic/20703-que-buen-negocio-que-hize.html
-http://www.comunidadhosting.com/la-comunidad/11393-denuncio-estafa-de-usuario-stochyk.html
- http://foros.toxico-pc.com/showthread.php?t=39882
- http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-w...agina-ejemplo/
-https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=370294302984563&id=195223 583824970
- http://www.vendermiweb.com/component...933/Itemid,26/

UPDATED CLIFFS (August 10th, 2012) - From victim

-Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" agreed to a trade where I would send him ~$6,000 on Moneybookers and he would send me a bank wire.
-I sent the Moneybookers and Maxi lied about sending me a wire.
-Maxi deposited all the money on Pokerstars, bragging about having a "6k roll." He has played under the nicknames Rastafari726 and Beats4You.
-Now Maxi admits that he never sent the wire. He claims that he will pay me my money but he is very evasive, always telling me illogical stories and going long periods of time before responding to my messages. He does all of this despite the fact that he is constantly online, always updating his Facebook and grinding most of the day on Pokerstars with my money.

Updated Cliffs: -Since Maxi was underage at the time of the scam he could not use Moneybookers or PokerStars accounts in his own name. On June 20, Maxi had also arranged for a Moneybookers to PokerStars transfer with a third person, Santiago (Elpivesabe).
-He had me send the Moneybookers to Santiago, who then sent money to the Stars account Maxi was playing on (Rastafari726). Santiago is a poker pro and he was unaware that he was assisting in the scam; he was just doing a transfer for Maxi.
-In Maxi’s brief appearance in the thread, he made up a story about how Santiago was really the one responsible for sending me the money (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=114).
-Maxi photo-shopped a Skype conversation (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=125) that I had with him. It was soon confirmed that this conversation was photo-shopped (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=190).
-No one believed Maxi’s senseless story and a couple days later, Santiago posted the truth about what happened (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=321).
-The PokerStars account that Maxi was playing on at the time belonged to another Argentinian, Imbrogno, who let Maxi borrow his account to play on. Imbrogno had ~$850 on the account in a pending Neteller withdrawal. Upon receiving control of the account, Maxi cancelled the Neteller withdrawal and transferred all the money in the account to someone who gave him cash in person.
Imbrgono tells his full story here (http://es.pokerstrategy.com/forum/th...hreadid=249735) and here (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...ochyk-1228803/)
-Within days of posting the thread, a couple of 2+2ers were able to find quite a few other scams/attempted scams Maxi pulled in the past:
-http://forobeta.com/off-topic/20703-que-buen-negocio-que-hize.html
-http://www.comunidadhosting.com/la-comunidad/11393-denuncio-estafa-de-usuario-stochyk.html
- http://foros.toxico-pc.com/showthread.php?t=39882
- http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-w...agina-ejemplo/
-https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=370294302984563&id=195223 583824970
- http://www.vendermiweb.com/component...933/Itemid,26/


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*Original Post Below*

Last month I was looking to trade some money I had on Moneybookers in exchange for a bank wire so I posted in the HSNL transfer thread (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...s-only-504897/). Twoplustwo member Maxostoch, real name Maxi Stochyk Duarte, contacted me on Skype telling me that he would be able to take care of the transfer for me. He said he was a professional poker player and for some reason I confused him with a mid-stakes pro that I use to talk strategy with. After seeing 1000+ posts on 2+2 and 450+ contacts on Skype I assumed I was dealing with someone reputable. I agreed to do the transfer with him and on June 20 I sent him €4,624 (EUR) on Moneybookers. Upon receiving the Moneybookers, he claimed to have then sent me a wire for $5,735 (USD) (this is what it came out to after converting from Euro to USD and taking off a vig).

A couple weeks later the money was still not in my bank account and I tried contacting him. He was not responding to any of my messages on Skype or email. Luckily I was able to get in touch with a couple of twoplustwo members who know him, including his flatmates. One of Maxi’s flatmates told me that he in fact was not a poker pro and that he only played micro-stakes HUSNG’s and was a breakeven/ marginal loser. He was 17 at the time I initiated the transfer with him (turning 18 a week later). Since pulling off this scam, Maxi had also moved from his flat in Barcelona to Buenos Aires, Argentina. Maxi’s flatmate also told me that on June 20 (right after I sent money) he was bragging to his friends and also posted on Facebook about having a “6k roll” on PokerStars. He had never sent the wire like we agreed and instead loaded it all onto Stars.



He loaded it onto the SN Rastafari726 and these are his results according to SharkScope:

.

After depositing my $6k on June 20, he started to take some shots at higher-stakes games. This was just a temporary account, however, as he turned 18 a week later and eventually opened up his own account. I was able to find out with a little bit of help from a friend that his new poker SN is Beats4You. This has been confirmed when I joined his Stars Home Games League, which he posted the info for joining on his Facebook wall. He has been grinding the 30’s HUSNG daily on PokerStars with my money. He blocked his SharkScope but here are his stats according to PokerOptimizer:

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A day after I got in touch with Maxi’s flatmates, Maxi’s mother came and visited their flat and the news that Maxi had stolen $6k from me was relayed to her. She talked to her son about this and after that Maxi signed on to Skype and finally talked to me for the first time in weeks. He admitted to never sending me the wire. He said he was going to come up with a plan to send me the money but he needed some time. He was very brief with that conversation and signed off quickly. Since then he has told me that a “financial contact” of his in New York will be sending me $6k in the near future. But he has failed to give me an exact date I can expect the money and he has not given me any sort of details about who this guy is or how I can contact him. Given Maxi’s track record and his ambiguity in describing this “financial contact,” I am almost certain that this is just another false story that he is telling me to try and hold me off. He ignores most of the messages I send him and takes days before giving me a short response and signing off again.

Although he has been unreachable and slow to respond to my messages, he is constantly online. For a while I was able to see that he was updating his Facebook almost every hour. When I called him out on this he blocked me on Facebook and claimed that he deactivated it (another lie). I have been able to confirm with a friend that he still indeed does have Facebook and is constantly updating it. Often these are poker updates about how the grinding is going. He also has Facebook posts in which he brags about buying a new home theater and sounds system as well as posts in which he is asking to do a transfer for $6k on Neteller and pictures of having $8,000 of hard cash among other things. This is all pretty disgusting considering the money he owes me. I have screenshots of this and will post them in the future if this continues to go unresolved.

I have been waiting patiently over one month for my money and have given Maxi many chances to work something out. But he has mostly ignored me and told me lies when he actually does communicate with me. At this point I have no choice but to let the poker community know what he has done and that he is a liar and a thief. I also want to warn anyone else who knows him or is contacted by him not to trust him. Maxi I am still expecting my money and I will keep spreading the word about what you did until I get paid.

Full name: Maximiliano Stochyk Duarte




Cliffs: -Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" “Beats4You” agreed to a trade where I would send him ~$6,000 on Moneybookers and he would send me a bank wire.
-I sent the Moneybookers and Maxi lied about sending me a wire.
-Maxi deposited all the money on Pokerstars, bragging about having a "6k roll." He has played under the Nicknames Rastafari726 and Beats4You.
-Now Maxi admits that he never sent the wire. He claims that he will pay me my money but he is very evasive, always telling me illogical stories and going long periods of time before responding to my messages. He does all of this despite the fact that he is constantly online, always updating his Facebook and grinding most of the day on Pokerstars with my money.

Last edited by ChicagoRy; 08-17-2012 at 10:30 PM. Reason: added spanish cliffs
Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole ,700 from me Quote
07-27-2012 , 03:43 PM
Here are the Messages on Skype between me and Maxi after June 20. I only kept in the important stuff because our chat history is very long. If anybody wants the whole chat transcript you can PM me. Also just to avoid any confusion, my real name is Ajay, my 2+2 nickname Johnboy is just a silly nickname I use to have.


[6/20/2012 12:47:44 PM] Ajay: hey man
[6/20/2012 12:47:47 PM] Maxi: hey
[6/20/2012 12:48:01 PM] Ajay: so would you actually be able to do an MB for wire, turns out I actually need it now lol
[6/20/2012 12:48:04 PM] Ajay: the MB is ready btw
[6/20/2012 12:48:07 PM] Maxi: how much
[6/20/2012 12:48:11 PM] Maxi: depends need to check limit
[6/20/2012 12:48:27 PM] Ajay: I think around €4,800
[6/20/2012 12:48:31 PM] Maxi: one sec
[6/20/2012 12:48:33 PM] Maxi: i'll check
[6/20/2012 12:50:13 PM] Maxi: for when u need the money on the bank?
[6/20/2012 12:50:20 PM] Maxi: it will talke like 5 days
...
[6/20/2012 1:18:15 PM] Maxi: i will go tomorrow to the bank morning and make the transfer
[6/20/2012 1:18:29 PM] Maxi: do u need any type of guarantee like my passport or something?
[6/20/2012 1:18:56 PM] Ajay: hmm no that's okay
[6/20/2012 1:19:12 PM] Maxi: ok no problem
[6/20/2012 1:19:18 PM] Maxi: so how much is the total sum
[6/20/2012 1:19:28 PM] Maxi: i need to sort out how much i need to send u
[6/20/2012 1:21:58 PM] Maxi: 4,800€ - 2,5% - 4656€
[6/20/2012 1:22:06 PM] Maxi: i need to send u 4656€
[6/20/2012 1:22:21 PM] Ajay: yea it'll be around there
...
[6/20/2012 1:59:29 PM] Ajay: came out to be 4624 total
[6/20/2012 2:00:14 PM] Ajay: €4624
[6/20/2012 2:00:27 PM] Ajay: did you receive?
[6/20/2012 2:00:59 PM] Maxi: one sec i'll ask my mate
[6/20/2012 2:01:14 PM] Maxi: he's grinding but sec
[6/20/2012 2:01:34 PM] Maxi: so 4625
[6/20/2012 2:01:55 PM] Maxi: 4510 for you.
[6/20/2012 2:03:16 PM] Ajay: right
[6/20/2012 2:03:17 PM] Maxi: yeap
[6/20/2012 2:03:17 PM] Maxi: is on mb
[6/20/2012 2:03:46 PM] Maxi: so i'll ship the money tomorrow
[6/20/2012 2:03:56 PM] Maxi: you'll have on your account monday
[6/20/2012 2:04:05 PM] Maxi: is like 3 days
[6/20/2012 2:04:32 PM] Ajay: so are you sending me 1.2715 x 4510 = $5734.47?
[6/20/2012 2:04:38 PM] Maxi: yes
[6/20/2012 2:04:44 PM] Ajay: okay great, thanks so much man
[6/20/2012 2:04:46 PM] Maxi: or euro as u preffer
[6/20/2012 2:04:48 PM] Ajay: (handshake)
[6/20/2012 2:04:54 PM] Ajay: no USD is good thanks
[6/20/2012 2:05:03 PM] Maxi: no problem

… Next Day …
[6/21/2012 7:18:33 AM] Ajay: hey
[6/21/2012 7:18:36 AM] Ajay: did you send the wire?
[6/21/2012 7:20:11 AM] Maxi: hey, didnt go to the bank yet
[6/21/2012 7:20:14 AM] Maxi: will go in some minutes
[6/21/2012 7:20:22 AM] Maxi: woke up some minutes ago
[6/21/2012 7:20:33 AM] Ajay: oh ok no worries
[6/21/2012 1:53:27 PM] Maxi: hey man
[6/21/2012 1:53:57 PM] Maxi: i can wire u in euro or if u wait i can put them on dolar but i need to dot he wire on monday because i need to convert
[6/21/2012 1:54:01 PM] Maxi: the currenctys
[6/21/2012 1:54:03 PM] Maxi: currencys
[6/21/2012 1:54:26 PM] Maxi: if u agree i will give u like 0,5% of my fee more fo u
[6/21/2012 1:54:29 PM] Maxi: because of the delay
[6/21/2012 1:54:34 PM] Maxi: confirm me
[6/21/2012 1:55:11 PM] Ajay: alright no problem, I can wait

... 2 days later ...
[6/23/2012 9:02:12 AM] Maxi: On monday i can make the wire, will tell u the day it will be on your bank account on monday
[6/23/2012 9:02:22 AM] Maxi: is that ok?
[6/23/2012 9:02:47 AM] Maxi: Spanish banking is a bit ****ty atm because of the goverment watching international transfers
[6/23/2012 9:03:03 AM] Maxi: money laundering
[6/23/2012 9:03:50 AM] Ajay: oh yea sure
[6/23/2012 9:03:59 AM] Ajay: what day will it be in my account?
[6/23/2012 9:04:07 AM] Maxi: i'll ask that on monday
[6/23/2012 9:04:11 AM] Maxi: prob it will take some days
[6/23/2012 9:04:19 AM] Ajay: oh ok
[6/23/2012 9:04:26 AM] Maxi: they told me that american transfers take a bit more
[6/23/2012 9:04:30 AM] Maxi: because is non european
[6/23/2012 9:05:10 AM] Maxi: but dont worry, do u need the money with a real speed?
[6/23/2012 9:05:21 AM] Maxi: i've got some mates on EEUU
[6/23/2012 9:05:59 AM] Ajay: no man no rush
[6/23/2012 9:06:16 AM] Maxi: ok perfect, but i will mantain the convert rate
[6/23/2012 9:06:21 AM] Ajay: ok great
[6/23/2012 9:06:50 AM] Maxi: im going to brasil in some weeks so if u need any other cashout i will not be available to make them for like 3-4 weeks
[6/23/2012 9:07:14 AM] Maxi: but i have some contacts if u need but they dont give out bank but maybe paypal

... 2 days later ...
[6/25/2012 2:17:27 PM] Ajay: hey
[6/25/2012 2:17:32 PM] Ajay: did you send the wire today?
[6/25/2012 2:17:51 PM] Maxi: yes did it on the [****] bank they called my local office to do it so yes
[6/25/2012 2:18:00 PM] Maxi: i'll go tomorrow and tell u the day
[6/25/2012 2:18:06 PM] Maxi: i till will be on ur account
[6/25/2012 2:18:08 PM] Maxi: forgot to ask today
[6/25/2012 2:18:18 PM] Ajay: okay great thanks (y)
[6/25/2012 2:18:33 PM | Edited 2:18:43 PM] Ajay: what was the exact amount that you ended up sending?
[6/25/2012 2:18:39 PM] Maxi: let me check
[6/25/2012 2:18:57 PM] Maxi: 5735
[6/25/2012 2:19:10 PM] Ajay: okay cool

11 days later the money was still not in my account and he was not on Skype so I emailed him on July 5:
Hey mate,

This is [Ajay]. It has been over 10 days since you said you sent the wire transfer and it still is not showing in my account. Even 10 days seemed like an usually long time for it to go through, and it's still not showing. What bank did you send it from? Can you please look into this for me ASAP? I really need the money.

Thanks,

Ajay


He responded within 10 minutes with:
Yo mate, the transfer should be there. Im travelling so i dont have that much access to skype but im on my email always. If its not for monday let me know.
I will be online on saturday so we can talk and check all out. But dont worry.


I sent him 3 emails after then but he did not respond to anything I had to say for over 10 days until I got in touch with the people who knew him and his mom found out about what he did.


Here is a convo between Maxi and his flatmate right after I sent him the $6k:

[20/06/2012 22:27:02] Maxi: got 6k
[20/06/2012 22:27:03] Maxi: for 60s
[20/06/2012 22:27:39] Flatmate: staked?
[20/06/2012 22:28:53] Maxi: something like that
[20/06/2012 22:29:00] Flatmate: wtf
[20/06/2012 22:29:12] Flatamate: you can't even beat the 7's
[20/06/2012 22:29:15] Maxi: ajajjaja
[20/06/2012 22:29:20] Maxi: but im the boss man
[20/06/2012 22:29:32] Flatmate: whose is the money
[20/06/2012 22:30:09] Maxi: staking from an argenintean friend
[20/06/2012 22:30:15] Maxi: he won some majors in arg
[20/06/2012 22:30:18] Maxi: and lapt
[20/06/2012 22:30:33] Maxi: but im not gonna play
[20/06/2012 22:30:35] Flatmate: why is he staking you
[20/06/2012 22:30:35] Maxi: for weeks
[20/06/2012 22:30:40] Maxi: because he likes me
[20/06/2012 22:30:45] Maxi: he wants to help me
[20/06/2012 22:30:47] Maxi: thats all
[20/06/2012 22:30:59] Flatmate: so u have 6k in your account right now?
[20/06/2012 22:31:03] Maxi: ye
[20/06/2012 22:31:07] Flatmate: screenshot
[20/06/2012 22:31:09] Maxi: 6,002
[20/06/2012 22:31:30] Maxi: sec
[20/06/2012 22:31:53] Maxi: http://i.imgur.com/N7htG.png [Link changed only to edit out personal info]


Here’s another recent Skype conversation between Maxi and his flatmate. Here is making it clear that he has no intention of paying me:

[25/07/2012 16:57:42] Flatmate: max, do you know how much trouble you could get yourself in?
[25/07/2012 16:57:48] Maxi: none
[25/07/2012 16:57:53] Maxi: only some 2p2 ****
[25/07/2012 16:57:59] Maxi: nothing more than that
[25/07/2012 16:58:01] Maxi:
[25/07/2012 16:58:08] Maxi: mb is ilegal in USA
[25/07/2012 16:58:15] Maxi: he's the ilegal
[25/07/2012 16:58:50] Flatmate: you're lying to him
[25/07/2012 16:59:04] Flatmate: more bull**** about a contact in new york
[25/07/2012 17:00:57] Flatmate: how much did you lose?
[25/07/2012 17:01:16] Maxi: where
[25/07/2012 17:01:29] Flatmate: how much of the 6k have you lost?
[25/07/2012 17:01:35] Maxi: why should i loose?
[25/07/2012 17:01:56] Flatmate: you've lost a lot, ajay has seen the graphs
[25/07/2012 17:02:08] Maxi: from what sn?
[25/07/2012 17:02:14] Flatmate: june 20-21 you lost 600
[25/07/2012 17:03:13] Maxi: na
[25/07/2012 17:03:15] Maxi: im playing now
[25/07/2012 17:04:34] Maxi: i'll talk to u later
Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole ,700 from me Quote
07-27-2012 , 03:51 PM
Haven't read the whole thread yet, but I don't understand how a 17 year old person can have a (verified) MB account.
Maxi Stochyk Duarte "Maxostoch" "Beats4You" stole ,700 from me Quote
07-27-2012 , 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by I<3Poker
Haven't read the whole thread yet, but I don't understand how a 17 year old person can have a (verified) MB account.
Good point. I did not send the Moneybookers directly to Maxi's name, but rather to one of his friends accounts. While I do not know exactly what happened here, I think Maxi may have initiated another transfer, a MB for Stars transfer with this other person where I sent to his MB and this guy sent to Maxi's PokerStars. I have tried to contact this 3rd-person but have been unsuccessful so far.
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-27-2012 , 04:33 PM
I hope you'll get your money back, pretty ******ed of him to do that.

I have him on skype ( I think we talked like 2 times) and told him about this thread, he didin't knew about it and snapped dcd...
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-27-2012 , 05:21 PM
shocked [ ]
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-27-2012 , 06:17 PM
sorry to hear that.

it was already suspicious back in the days when he made like 50 posts a day to push the count and wanted everybody on the forum to add him on skype.
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-27-2012 , 06:33 PM
^this

he somehow joined hu skype group i'm in and was creepy as hell

he insta added me, snap offered me discount price on chadders pack and then begged like **** to sweat me
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-27-2012 , 06:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage666
sorry to hear that.

it was already suspicious back in the days when he made like 50 posts a day to push the count and wanted everybody on the forum to add him on skype.
This. I spoke to him multiple times, he came off as shady, incompetent and immature.
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-27-2012 , 08:29 PM
blah,

sorry to hear that bro.
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-27-2012 , 08:48 PM
Why is the law never involved in these situations? Outright theft of 4figures.


Poker needs some muscle! How bout hiring that 'just a frustration post' dude
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-27-2012 , 08:56 PM
Sorry to hear that too, I hope you get your money back.
I also have him on Skype, he wanted me to work out how he was player from his results graphs.
Added "- SCAMMER" to his name as a reminder. Thanks for the warning.
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-28-2012 , 12:05 AM
yeah he was going around trying to add everyone. asked me at least 3-4 times, 2-3 of them being PMs...

hope it works out but as of now i think 2p2 should be sitting beats4you nonstop
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-28-2012 , 01:05 AM
Oh, and if you want/need help to setup a www.maxstochykisathief.com site you can shoot me a PM.

A site like that should be last option in resolving this tho.
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-28-2012 , 03:04 AM
Hi,

Sorry to hear. I already coached him in the past as maxostoch and now he contacted me under his new nickname Beats4you. Didnt know it was the same guy. But he didn't have money yet for the coaching. I deleted him from my contact list.
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-28-2012 , 03:07 AM
HOw weird, I had that guy as a 30$ HT reg. He always told me 'he was at a grindhouse with other mid stakes players playing for a living'. How low can people go. I hope you get your money back.
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-28-2012 , 03:45 AM
sigh...another one
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-28-2012 , 03:52 AM
I know maxistoch and his flatmates personally as I spent last year in Barcelona. I was actually involved with maxistoch in a website project, which after claiming he was some kind of webdesigner prodigy (having created and sold several web businesses, blahblah), he dropped pretty quickly out of laziness/incompetence, showing several of the techniques he used against Ajay (BS promises, "contacts" that were helping him out with logo/design). As far as cash, the only money he got out of me was 15 dollars or so that he asked me to send to a friend for him to design a logo. He did make me buy a vBulletin forum license for 200 dollars that we ended up not using but I don't think he benefited directly from that. I also gave him a computer screen I had lying around my house when I left the city.

I'm pretty shocked at the kids behavior. At first, I thought that he had agreed on the transfer to satisfy his need to build his poker network, to feel important in the community, and that he had deposited the 6k in "his" account to show off to his friends (another very important part of his personality). I thought PS had then blocked his funds because they had found about his being underage/using other peoples accounts, and that he had panicked.

Howerer, from the conversation with his flatmate the day it happened and the post he then put on Facebook "Money in my pocket", I can only conclude that he had planned to steal the money from the start.

Absolutely disgusting, especially considering the random acts of kindness he benefited from in the community. Also, difficult to understand, as the kid was so obsessed with networking, and had perfect conditions to develop as a player (poker house, etc.), and had really cool/trustworthy flatmates.

I really hope he either comes to his senses and pays back the money or his family bails him out when they realize the extent of what their son did.
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-28-2012 , 09:21 AM
So, is there no way you (we) could contact 2p2, explain the entire situation (plus admitting he's underaged)) and ask for a refund?
theyre confiscating your entire bankroll if they find out you play poker underage

edit: if this doesnt work, i propose we sit that guy for life
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-28-2012 , 09:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbra Streisand
So, is there no way you (we) could contact 2p2, explain the entire situation (plus admitting he's underaged)) and ask for a refund?
theyre confiscating your entire bankroll if they find out you play poker underage

edit: if this doesnt work, i propose we sit that guy for life
+1 to that, people like this make me sick, not even a hint of remorse afaik
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-28-2012 , 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbra Streisand
So, is there no way you (we) could contact 2p2, explain the entire situation (plus admitting he's underaged)) and ask for a refund?
theyre confiscating your entire bankroll if they find out you play poker underage

edit: if this doesnt work, i propose we sit that guy for life
obviously meant Stars here
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-28-2012 , 10:28 AM
The problem is :
1. He's not underage anymore
2. He probably doesn't have a 6k roll, and reading this will probably may him withdraw his bankroll anyways
3. He's a losing player, so being sat4life by all the HT regs won't actually hurt him at this point in time
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-28-2012 , 10:33 AM
I know for a fact he was trying to get "staked" after having scammed Ajay, using the screenshots of the 6k bankroll to show he was trustworthy, hopefully everyone who has any kind of history with maxi can chime in here to see exactly how far he was going with his attempted scamming
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-28-2012 , 10:35 AM
Judging by his posts on 2p2 this does not surprise me at all.
Maxi Stochyk Duarte &quot;Maxostoch&quot; &quot;Beats4You&quot; stole ,700 from me Quote
07-28-2012 , 10:37 AM
This might sound nuts but does he actually own the flat in barcelona? I only ask because he just said he was renting it out. If he does own it id start sending letters from a lawyer to the address- also get in contact with the mother etc.
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