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03-04-2015 , 01:28 PM
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    Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #35346771

    Hero (SB): 1,420 (71 bb)
    BB: 1,580 (79 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 7
    Hero completes, BB raises to 60, Hero calls 40

    Flop: (120) 9 A 6 (2 players)
    BB bets 60, Hero calls 60

    Turn: (240) K (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 100, BB folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 240 pot
    Final Board: 9 A 6 K
    Hero mucked 8 7 and won 240 (120 net)
    BB mucked and lost (-120 net)



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    03-04-2015 , 02:31 PM
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    Sorry but this hand is played really bad. The good news is that this Is a good learning spot and if you play it better in the future you will improve allot.
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    03-04-2015 , 02:45 PM
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    Quote:
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    Sorry but this hand is played really bad. The good news is that this Is a good learning spot and if you play it better in the future you will improve allot.
    Thanks for the advice.

    How would you say i need to play this hand?
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    03-04-2015 , 05:08 PM
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    It's not that badly played. Villain obviously does not have an idea of ranges since your limp will rule out AxXx from your range.
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    03-04-2015 , 07:47 PM
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    Raise preflop.
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    03-04-2015 , 11:23 PM
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    Sorry I miss read this hand history I thought hero folded turn which would be really bad.
    You should definitely be raising this hand Preflop 70bb deep at the $10s. For the fold equity you generate and to build a pot when you make a strong hand.

    On flop you have the virtual nuts you are crushing his limp 3bet range. You want to start building a pot for value and you don’t mind if villain folds because villain is losing his equity share of the pot. If villain wants to get all in with you have the odds to call.
    As played turn play is ok.
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    03-05-2015 , 05:28 PM
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    Quote:
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    On flop you have the virtual nuts you are crushing his limp 3bet range.
    i rly hope u misread the hh again.
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    03-06-2015 , 02:45 AM
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    Raise preflop. Hand is strong! If he is some maniac limp is better. You should give some additional info when possible.
    As played I would say he definetly has some A and you dont so I think call is good, but dont mind raise either. I might raise actually since I would want to build a pot and there aren't that many draws better than ours.
    K turn is good card for him and I actually dont expect that many folds, especially against such bet. Don't like the sizing at all. If it was another turn card I would probably pot it against a check
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    03-06-2015 , 08:16 AM
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    Quote:
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    i rly hope u misread the hh again.
    You underestimate the amount of seemingly knowledgeable players who cannot define what a 3bet actually means I'm not having a dig at anyone,most don't know the difference between flopping a set and flopping trips!
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    03-07-2015 , 07:35 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by this not a party
    Sorry I miss read this hand history I thought hero folded turn which would be really bad.
    You should definitely be raising this hand Preflop 70bb deep at the $10s. For the fold equity you generate and to build a pot when you make a strong hand.

    On flop you have the virtual nuts you are crushing his limp 3bet range. You want to start building a pot for value and you don’t mind if villain folds because villain is losing his equity share of the pot. If villain wants to get all in with you have the odds to call.
    As played turn play is ok.
    Maybe you should stop talking.

    Villain doesnt have a limp/3b range here because he didn't limp or 3bet. Hero limped, villain attacked.

    OP it depends on whether your strategy involves mostly limping or mostly raising your button. Personally, I open 2x from BTN. As played, completely fine. I prefer betting to checking just because we fold out a lot of his pairs lower than a king that beat us. Plus when called, we have good equity plus we can barrel river on certain non-safe cards when we miss and expect to get a fold often enough
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    03-10-2015 , 03:51 PM
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    Raise preflop most of hands and this one for sure
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