This is the 5th hand vs unknown, he gave up in the first 4 small pots, played passive.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Full Tilt
Hero ($3,140)
($2,860)

Dealt to Hero 5 9

calls $10, Hero checks

FLOP ($40) 9 5 A

Hero bets $20, raises to $40, Hero raises to $120, raises to $200, Hero calls $80

TURN ($440) 9 5 A 7

Hero checks, bets $140, Hero calls $140

RIVER ($720) 9 5 A 7 Q

Hero checks, bets $500, Hero calls $500

I would not show villains hand in OP.

If you are going to take this line why wouldn't you raise the villain on the river?

Fearing a set?

What worse hand will call a river raise? I'm snap folding AK facing a river check-raise on that river. Maybe nitty of me but we're 150bb deep and we only beat a bluff (the board is super dry).

If my only read is that he is passive/tight so far, do u really think he will call a raise with worse more often then with better? I didnt thinks so and also vs a passive player in Lowstakes SNG shouldnt u be less inclined to push small edges?

What r you afraid of a set? 86 for a S8?

Sorry I don't live in that kinda fear.

Maybe villain thinks his ace is good and calls the raise. This would be a solid value raise with this line IMO.

Check raising this river is really thin if you ask me. If he has been passive, I don't see him taking this line until the river and calling our c/r with "just" Ax type hands.

So what if he calls with worse some of the time? His range has more better hands. Check-raising looks spewy tbh.

What range are you fearing here, a set? It would be odd to play 86 the way villain did.

FYP

[QUOTE=Quimp;25309019He calls with worse some of the time. His range has only a few better hands. Not raising looks nitty.[/QUOTE]

Honey Badger, we don't have top 2...

Uhhh, why would you raise that river? I mean, seriously.

I would lead pot, for one thing, and possibly flat a c/r if it's big, but seeing as it's min, I would just call and call down. I think bet/3bet/call, lead turns is okay too.

I think you can sorta c/r the turn, but river def a c/c or bet/cry.

Im happy im not the only one "living in fear" on the river.
Atleast the lines on every street r up for debate.

Because the villain looks spew happy and might call with his ace.

I also take a different line then op.

But he played it very passive, an ace may think it's good and the hero is trying to bluff his top pair out of the hand. He could have some random monster but most likely it's an ace. Don't live in fear. The rematch button pops up right after the hand if villain strikes gold. Yes one out of 9799 times you will have a pocket pair that hits quads but i am not going to play as if you will.

Why win a smaller pot when a bigger one is waiting to be seized by the throat?

Read was: villian is tight passive. So now he seems spew happy based on this hand?

What has fear and quads to do with this hand?
Its all about his range and the likeliness he will call with better vs call with worse.

There is a bit of tongue in cheek going on with me.

Let me break this down for you and some of the other nittier regs on this board.

You have a trash hand and get to a flop cheap and strike gold. So far so good.

You donk bet $20 why?

I do this myself from time to time but it's to get the villain to raise me.

HE min raises you which screams I have top pair or a set. You 3 bet and and he min raises you again. If you think he has a set time to slow down otherwise it's time to play for stacks.

I shove it here. Villain looks like he is willing to get it in. If he has a set God bless him GG sir another tourney is right around the corner, if he calls with a draw or even A9 i am still happy with the line.

All the previous posts were about the river play including yours. That is what we commented on, so an explanation on a different flop line doesnt change much. I dont think ur line on flop is bad. I do think based on the tiny bit of info we have, there is a huge chance by shoving flop that his worse hands fold and his calling range is ahead of us or not far behind. by flatting we want to keep his weak range in.