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12-01-2012 , 01:00 AM
How do you play aggainst a super aggro ?

He was rly often minraising, was pratically always cbetting the flop (2/3rds the size of the pot), was often 3betting (post flop and preflop)... seemed to me like i never had hands... i'm not a nit but he really made me tilt and I had no idea what to do against this guy srsly... i was hitting no flop/cards rly...

How do you guys deal with this kind of player in hyper turbos ?
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12-01-2012 , 01:53 AM
minraising a lot? that's cool, 3bet jam wide, check in icmizer, you can do basicaly whatever you want, just keep gameflow in mind. good thing is that most people don't know how to expand thier mr/call range so jam KTs and expect some call from random Kx when he gets angry.

about post flop play, I would just try to hit some equity and then make a move. if u run bad in card distribution, that's fine, don't make any spazz, probably you can get some silly call when you get shallow so keep your chips for late game
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12-01-2012 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by omnomno
minraising a lot? that's cool, 3bet jam wide, check in icmizer, you can do basicaly whatever you want, just keep gameflow in mind. good thing is that most people don't know how to expand thier mr/call range so jam KTs and expect some call from random Kx when he gets angry.

about post flop play, I would just try to hit some equity and then make a move. if u run bad in card distribution, that's fine, don't make any spazz, probably you can get some silly call when you get shallow so keep your chips for late game
Thanks a lot for your help !
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12-01-2012 , 02:33 AM
Yes this pisses me off as well when you aren't catching cards/flops there isn't much you can do but get run over. I try to have at least some equity and jam over flop raises but sometimes these guys will call you pretty light because they are spewey (some will fold if you fight back though)
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12-01-2012 , 02:38 AM
limp(/call) middling stuffs, only Raise stuffs that you don't mind GII or calling the 3 bet with. 3bet him wider. jam tons over his minRaise around ~15bb deep.
Remember that his range on the flop is superwide (esp on dry board)
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12-01-2012 , 09:57 AM
yep , limpcall hands u can't call a shove with and play good postflop; 3bshove wider than vs a random; reduce a bit your opening range; be ready to stack off lighter postflop and let him barrel off his stack when u have it.

... common mistake vs such villians is that they suck out u 5-6 games and then u start making stupid moves which u know u'll regret later when u review the games ... it's all about keeping your cool and exploiting their weaknesses so that u eventually destroy them
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12-01-2012 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellegance
yep , limpcall hands u can't call a shove with and play good postflop; 3bshove wider than vs a random; reduce a bit your opening range; be ready to stack off lighter postflop and let him barrel off his stack when u have it.

... common mistake vs such villians is that they suck out u 5-6 games and then u start making stupid moves which u know u'll regret later when u review the games ... it's all about keeping your cool and exploiting their weaknesses so that u eventually destroy them
Yeah, I played a couple of gams against him, and at the end I wasn't playing my best at all.

Thanks guys for your tips, it will help me a lot in my game !
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12-02-2012 , 12:48 AM
I just played a few games with a villain who 3bet 52% over 146 hands!!!

Once you adjust you can actually print money vs these guys but their is a fair bit of variance. I started of down 3 BI off the bat but kept my cool and kept on clicking rematch and ended up up 3 BI.

It did take me a couple of games to work out what was going on, it's pretty annoying when you've already folded away a third of your stack before you work out that villain is 3betting and cr jamming really wide (and mostly air). But yeah, keep your cool and expand your calling range a LOT - I worked out in icmizer that I could call pretty much any broadway, ace, king or pair (my free trial on icmizer ran out for the day so I can't quite remember) and be ahead. I didn't call quite that wide though as I figured villain would give me enough chances to get it in better, to reduce variance a bit. Not the best long term strategy but I'd feel pretty bad if I lost a few more BI I think
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12-02-2012 , 05:03 AM
you will have a feeling if they bs around with atc and etc. sometime u just have to gamble with them and expand ur ranges. bcos a lot of ur folding ranges will be ahead of his. by folding too much u lose a lot of equity. u might be wrong a few time when u actually call and he has a hand but it does not mean its wrong.
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12-02-2012 , 08:35 AM
i played 2 villains who were really hard to play. Both folded like 10% to c-bet, didn`t fold vs barrels, played back vs my check raises, owned me at gameflow, adjusted good and quickly. Only thing i were able to do against them is having strong hands in my c-bet, check behind, check raise (ch/r barrel, ch/r, check), check call ranges. And then trying to attack weak parts of their range. Sitting tight just didn`t work against these 2 guys. But later on i sharkscoped them and saw that both are 100s+ regs (i play one at $7s, and other at $15s) probably just having fun at micros.

And those who are over aggro, but fail to adjust is just printing money. Just think about every hand individually and base your decisions to adjustments rather than have "a plan to get hand and stack him off"
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