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11-07-2009 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jakeduke
ya primo as i said when i noticed them, the rake structure is the opposite of how every other poker site does things. FTP has like 80+4 regs and 88+4 turbos; Cake is doing 100+5 turbos and 90+5 super turbos. So relatively speaking we're paying 22% more rake than we are on FTP. I think this might be related to the fact that 33% (cake's rb) is 22% more than 27% (FTPs), but I dunno. Either way it doesn't make sense - we have less of an edge per game and we play more games, so even at the same rake rate cake wins. making it more on top of that is just greedy/a miscalculation.

are you buddies with lee or something? how do you know all the details about this stuff?
haha no not buddies w/Lee ;p, sponsored by a cake skin (Redback Poker) and the giu who creates the new SNG stuff / structures / etc. for their games contacted me because I had told the redback people cake needed to be notified cause of the rake in the games, etc., etc., it was obv an oversight, so we went about clearing it up, and for now, this is what we have. Hoping to get it changed to something better in the future but for that we need feedback, and they are considering everyhing. For me personally as well rake is obv the biggest issue, I think it needs to be signficantly lower than turbos / reg speeds as obviously the winrate will drop considerably. I think iPoker does it this way but cant play on euro sites, so can anyone who plays there chime in with their % rake at the different levels and maybe also their structure / blind levels as well?
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11-07-2009 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by badboyboogie0
10min to get to 50/100..., it doesn't look like superturbos, it's more like ftp on steroids. but it's certainly an interesting structure for a lot of players.

but the rake is total nonsense.
it's like disneyland making a 3x2 promotion..., come on kids, you pay for 3 rides and you get 2!

or maybe the main business of people in charge at cake is really pastry making. i don't know...
i wouldnt focus too much on the rake atm , the guy that made those seemed to rush and screwed up many lvls

9 is overraked compared to lower lvls , 24$ got a better rake ratio than 33 one and same for the 45 one
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11-07-2009 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by badboyboogie0
10min to get to 50/100..., it doesn't look like superturbos, it's more like ftp on steroids. but it's certainly an interesting structure for a lot of players.

but the rake is total nonsense.
it's like disneyland making a 3x2 promotion..., come on kids, you pay for 3 rides and you get 2!

or maybe the main business of people in charge at cake is really pastry making. i don't know...
lol yea, agreed it obv needs to be changed and it's being addressed, this is all that could happen for right now, i'm hoping it wont be too long before the rake issue is addressed, cause obv my fear for them is that the WR would be too small and the games unsustainable, which would be really bad for HUSNG economy on the cake network, which has had it's rough patches lately anyways, but regardless, keep giving feedback and something should be done, they seem pretty good about addressing stuff
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11-07-2009 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PrimordialAA
I think iPoker does it this way but cant play on euro sites, so can anyone who plays there chime in with their % rake at the different levels and maybe also their structure / blind levels as well?
Rake is always 5%

Structure is
10/20
20/40
30/60
50/100
100/200
150/300

Blindlevels are 1 min in superturbos, 4 min in turbos and 7 min in Regs

edit: starting stack: 1500

Last edited by Yasawa; 11-07-2009 at 01:14 AM.
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11-07-2009 , 01:10 AM
anyone good with re sizing images?

I trying to change to a new avatar but file is too big? i have done it b4 but for life of me cant rememebr how

how the eff i do it?
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11-07-2009 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Yasawa
Rake is always 5%

Structure is
10/20
20/40
30/60
50/100
100/200
150/300

Blindlevels are 1 min in superturbos, 4 min in turbos and 7 min in Regs
start with 1500 chips? those superturbos must be crazy.
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11-07-2009 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jakeduke
start with 1500 chips? those superturbos must be crazy.
yes I forget to mention that. Starting stack 1500. Yes these superturbos are insane.
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11-07-2009 , 01:14 AM
you reach 50-100 7 min before cake ones
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11-07-2009 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by eddymitchel
you reach 50-100 7 min before cake ones
Yes and you play like 2 hands each level.
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11-07-2009 , 01:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yasawa
Rake is always 5%

Structure is
10/20
20/40
30/60
50/100
100/200
150/300

Blindlevels are 1 min in superturbos, 4 min in turbos and 7 min in Regs

edit: starting stack: 1500
God dont any sites do this correctly? Rake in superturbos should obv be less, it's absurd to think that the huge decrease in WR isnt offset by less rake (as stars/FTP do w/their turbos by making them 330 rather than 300 for same rake, 550 rather than 500, etc.)
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11-07-2009 , 01:19 AM
Only time i tried i dropped 15ish buy in in no time playing with nash table
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11-07-2009 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PrimordialAA
God dont any sites do this correctly? Rake in superturbos should obv be less, it's absurd to think that the huge decrease in WR isnt offset by less rake (as stars/FTP do w/their turbos by making them 330 rather than 300 for same rake, 550 rather than 500, etc.)
they added some 24+1 45+2 sng already i didnt check 300 + lvls that would make some 360+15 if they adopt that model
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11-07-2009 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PrimordialAA
God dont any sites do this correctly? Rake in superturbos should obv be less, it's absurd to think that the huge decrease in WR isnt offset by less rake (as stars/FTP do w/their turbos by making them 330 rather than 300 for same rake, 550 rather than 500, etc.)
Its the same on the BOSS network (or IPN what it is called now I think). 5% rake always.

Their structure is:
15/30
25/50
50/100
100/200
150/300

starting stack 1500

Blindlevels 5 min


10/20
15/30
25/50
50/100
75/150
100/200

starting stack: 1500

Blindlevels: 8 min for regs and superslow regs 12 min
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11-07-2009 , 01:34 AM
At Ongame, Partypoker, Entraction and Everest you pay 10% rake. (at least low and midstakes, did not check for higher)
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11-07-2009 , 01:40 AM
party got some capped rake, max is 10$ on every sng , but under 200$ ones rake is insane
everest is 5% btw , i played a bit there 2 years ago
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11-07-2009 , 02:26 AM
wow that was fast - now the cake super turbos are 24+1, 36+1.5, 48+2, 96+4, etc. nice work!
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11-07-2009 , 02:32 AM
god p2ryan makes the most ******ed (double) floats oop ever
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11-07-2009 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by spamz0r
god p2ryan makes the most ******ed (double) floats oop ever
i'm guessing he gets there on the river, too, ya?
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11-07-2009 , 03:09 AM
sometimes
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11-07-2009 , 03:17 AM
lol @ p2ryan
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11-07-2009 , 03:23 AM
p2ryan boosted my ego somewhat early in my HUSNG career when we matched in a HUMTT and he confessed in the chat that I pwned him and I deserved to win regardless of results.
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11-07-2009 , 03:42 AM
it's sick how much times he's had a boat when i had trips/straight/flush
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11-07-2009 , 04:31 AM
Massive CL (4 left) in FT 50 1r1a... one time?

EDIT: 3rd.. fml
Why can't I get a ft free of bad beats?
/rant

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11-07-2009 , 06:14 AM
Spamz and p2ryan just played for like a gazillion hours :P

It ended 28-26 to spamz in $1ks, and ryan ran very well from what i saw anyway.

-hax -hox -cheer BOOM?
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11-07-2009 , 06:42 AM
well sngs are definitely gay
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