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10-22-2009 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jmill
Season finale from last night. It's up on itunes. He's playing emil at 5k PLO IIRC.
So it's not actually at the link someone posted, amirite? (Last episode is #9)
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10-22-2009 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jmill
lol, sandeep reset the stats again. Awesome. Someone seems insecure.
Why do you care about sandeep's stats?

Further, why do you care enough to call him out for what is probably a true personality flaw on a public forum? Are you trying to embarrass him? What's your angle?
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10-22-2009 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sejje
So it's not actually at the link someone posted, amirite? (Last episode is #9)
No its not. I posted the link. Those are for the previous episodes up to #9. I think Primo said the last one he saw was episode #6.
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10-22-2009 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pythagoras345
Thanks Freakg

I am a Long-time cash ring player, tried a few HU SNG last month as change of pace and had immediate success, so committed to playing out 100 of them.

Here are my results, all $50 on FT. This is 30.9% ROI, which based on what I read here is a pretty good start. Can I draw any conclusions yet or do I need more data? I feel like I can do much better on next 100, as I gave away 3 - 4 wins with poor play.

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just lucky man - sorry - no sample at all -

AND

why did i never ever had such a think over several thousand games...hmmm
waiting to hit me in this direction soon...smile..smile..smile
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10-22-2009 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kukulcan
why did i never ever had such a think over several thousand games...hmmm waiting to hit me in this direction soon...smile..smile..smile
So you are saying you've played 1000s of tournies and never seen a 100 tourney line like this? Doesn't that mean the exact opposite, it can't be ALL luck, or you would have had the same line, that there is some skill there?

PS. Before starting these up 30 days ago, i had 122 $20 over the course of 3 years. Had 74% win percentage.
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10-22-2009 , 04:44 PM
I had a 70-game stretch where I ran at 48% ROI.

I followed it, immediately, with a 200 game stretch at -25% ROI. -- both at 55s

ss Insane Steve on FTP

Seriously I hate being a poster child for variance but damn
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10-22-2009 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sejje
Why do you care about sandeep's stats?
Because of the amount of **** he talked upon his arrival to this thread.

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Originally Posted by sejje
Further, why do you care enough to call him out for what is probably a true personality flaw on a public forum
Because I find it amusing that someone who talked as much **** as he did keeps resetting his stats, and then subsequently starts bragging after resetting said stats.

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Originally Posted by sejje
you trying to embarrass him? What's your angle
No, I'm simply amused by his actions. I don't actually dislike him as a person or anything like that(lol). However, if my response is causing you great distress, being that this is the internet and it's serious business, feel free to PM me and I'm sure we can work through this together.

Yours truly, jmill.
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10-22-2009 , 04:49 PM
Also, Orton just wins games.
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10-22-2009 , 04:50 PM
all you grinders out there, do you aim for a certain amount of games a day or just play whenever you feel like it? i know i asked a couple of people these questions already, but i just wanna see other's people's opinion on this. if you guys aim for a certain amount of games per day, how many?
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10-22-2009 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Insane_Steve
I had a 70-game stretch where I ran at 48% ROI
I followed it, immediately, with a 200 game stretch at -30% ROI.
Are you a long term winning player? I bet yes, that is my point. What is your long-term ROI, that is my question.

I get variance, I get long-term win rate, never did I say I am going to stay at 30%. Look at my screen name, it that for a reason, I have two degrees in mathematics. I am not posting about the obvious turn in ROI that is going to happen to me.

Let me ask it one other way. What is the lowest long-term win rate player that posted a 100 tourney run like this? Has any player with 0%, 5%, 8%, 10%, 15% long-term ROI ever had a run this good?

My guess would be that the 10% and 15% players do it rather regularly. But I also guess that no player with long-term 0% ROI has ever seen a single run like this. I would actually be surprised if a 5% ROI player ever did it.
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10-22-2009 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pythagoras345
Are you a long term winning player? I bet yes, that is my point. What is your long-term ROI, that is my question.

I get variance, I get long-term win rate, never did I say I am going to stay at 30%. Look at my screen name, it that for a reason, I have two degrees in mathematics. I am not posting about the obvious turn in ROI that is going to happen to me.

Let me ask it one other way. What is the lowest long-term win rate player that posted a 100 tourney run like this? Has any player with 0%, 5%, 8%, 10%, 15% long-term ROI ever had a run this good?

My guess would be that the 10% and 15% players do it rather regularly. But I also guess that no player with long-term 0% ROI has ever seen a single run like this. I would actually be surprised if a 5% ROI player ever did it.
If your nick is pythagoras and you really got 2 degres in math (what is this?), then you should figure this out pretty easily. Take a losing player who loses x% of games. Take a binomial distr. and look how probale it is for this losing player to win y games or more.

Edit: Feel free to approx. your binomial distr. by a normal dist. of course.
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10-22-2009 , 05:18 PM
Yes, I have done the math, and there are tables posted in this forum that are accurate. But real life corroboration is always useful and insightful. This is particularly true when FT has been accused of being much more streaky than normal random. Not sure why every one in this forum has to attack, be negative and a hater.

I’m just looking for some guys that have shared similar short-term success, in hopes to under stand where they are now in their long-term profitability in this format of poker, since I am new to it.

If any of you who have shared a similar line are out there and want to provide me with such info, it would be much appreciated.
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10-22-2009 , 05:21 PM
long term ROI, as a guess, is 10-12% at 33s, and 9-10% at 55s. The latter is wild speculation because I'm still down at those hahaha
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10-22-2009 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Wray
Nah you're okay, I'm happy where I am currently, MJW.. i never said i was good, don't deflect it onto my game, i haven't got an ego.

I've got a basic but effective game. I never said anything else. What you said about the 8000 games, okay, I accept maybe I am being naive. Maybe, in "X" amount of time, i get F**Ked all over, over a period of time, and i'll come running back saying - ya know what, you were right..
This yank is curious ... where and what do you play? screen name?
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10-22-2009 , 05:34 PM
heyo donny is back on the fkn map. just re-bought some chips and bout to flip this benny into a G.

ok...let's do work...
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10-22-2009 , 05:38 PM
Every time I go on the HUNL page I laugh when I see the "400NL - reppin quads" thread.

The Bears <<<< Vikings
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10-22-2009 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by donnyberretta
heyo donny is back on the fkn map. just re-bought some chips and bout to flip this benny into a G.

ok...let's do work...
for ****s sakes work on your game and not posting in this thread
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10-22-2009 , 05:45 PM
Sorry to brag but ship 1k profit!

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10-22-2009 , 05:48 PM
^^ what limits did you jump
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10-22-2009 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pythagoras345
Not sure why every one in this forum has to attack, be negative and a hater.
It's the "HU SNG REGS THREAD" mate.

Ok, sorry - but this:
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Originally Posted by pythagoras345
This is 30.9% ROI...I feel like I can do much better on next 100, as I gave away 3 - 4 wins with poor play.
was really strange or aehmm naive. Just make some calcs: If you would really be able to win those 3-4 games more per 100 games you would have a roi of more than 40%. So just play 500 of this games/month and you will earn 10K/Month (+337$ rakeback). Im sure you know this will not going to happen.

At 100$ regspeed (1K games)
I had a strech of 150 games, where my ROI was near 30% (29.x%)
I had another stretch of 120 games, where my roi was 27%.

At 110$ turbos i actually never had 100 games with roi over 20%

My ROI at 105$ (reg. speed) is 13.6% over about 1K games
My ROI at 115$ (turbo) is about 5% over about 1K games.

Allin equity wise I ran bad at the turbos and good at the regspeeds.

I think I'm a winning player but I'm not sure.
I'm very, very sure that I'm not a -15% donk.
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10-22-2009 , 05:52 PM
20% at $110's turbo is solid over mb 500-1k game sample size.
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10-22-2009 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sandeep1234
20% at $110's turbo is solid over mb 500-1k game sample size.
Just sandeep and "the camel" manage to do this
Also FT Turbo is not the same as PS turbo obv
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10-22-2009 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
^^ what limits did you jump
Played 10's for first 460~ games, then up to 25's and just moved up to 50's tonight.
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10-22-2009 , 06:08 PM
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was really strange or aehmm naive. Just make some calcs: If you would really be able to win those 3-4 games more per 100 games you would have a roi of more than 40%. Im sure you know this will not going to happen.
Yes, I might have misworded that. I did not mean to imply that I am going to start and keep winning at 40%. What I meant, was this was my first 100 games playing HU SNG seriously (other than a few casual games here an there as a break from cash games). I realize I made several mistakes and it cost me 3 -4 matches. I hope to improve that going forward and not make those mistakes. So yes, if I have a similar 100 in the future, I think it could be 35+%. Likewise, what might be a 40 – 60 record in the future with the way I played this first 100 will hopefully only be a 44 – 56 record.


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At 100$ regspeed (1K games)
I had a strech of 150 games, where my ROI was near 30% (29.x%)
I had another stretch of 120 games, where my roi was 27%.
My ROI at 105$ (reg. speed) is 13.6% over about 1K games
Thanks, so so far only 2 people have reported they had a 30% ROI run over 100 tournies. Respectively, they state they are 10% and 13% long-term ROIers.

This is the data I am looking for. Any other players have a 30% ROI run over 100 tournies?
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10-22-2009 , 06:11 PM
i just lost to this guy, wtf am i doing?


Full Tilt Poker $20 + $1 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): t1265 M = 16.87
BTN/SB: t1735 M = 23.13

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with 7 3
BTN/SB calls t25, Hero checks

Flop: (t100) T 3 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: (t100) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

River: (t100) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Final Pot: t100
Hero shows 7 3 (a pair of Threes)
BTN/SB shows 9 8 (a straight, Queen high)
BTN/SB wins t100
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