One more question I have is, what are normal winrates at medium stakes 7, 15, 30 and at high stakes 60, 100? With RB.
I'm currently having 90cEV at 3$ and hourly is around 8$ with RB. Which is twice or even more the normal hourly rate in my country. Ridiclious, considering it's microstakes and everybody is ******ed.

Also how much is that in hourly $?

I know my morality and got extremely angry when he suggested I'm gonna steal his money. Anyway, looking from distance I overreacted. Sent 500e back.

You did not send back immediately was because you were asking your friends the max value you extract in this situation correct?

Good on you to send back IMO.


I'm been disconnected and have had funds returned and I have returned. The only person I would proudly blind out and not ship back in the HUSNG community in Panamarespec, which I had the pleasure or doing last week. He has blinded myself and many others out in the past.


I believe ICM / Chips is more than fair - rake (depending how much was missed) which after is refunded and an e-mail to stars even though they have got cheap would refund rake on a game in the instance...


In a $5,000HUSNG each chip is worth $3.33 so blinding out 100chips itself if already $333 which is a pretty large sum. It's not like those guys are making that per game I'm assuming when reg battling. (Whoever is winning)

"He suggested I was gonna steal his money, so I stole his money. I know my morality."

At least you paid him back in full.

You did the right thing baku. Good on you.

LOL no he didnt and only semi did after being goaded by 2p2 husng community and i assume his partners at smartspin

baku should pay the full amount back instead off that ****ing pityfull attempt at freerolling 12k, glad weve all seen how you conduct your self being the founder of one of the biggest spin stables ,if not thee biggest online, cliffs u were gonna maybe take the 12k, made a excuse that you fell asleep cos he asked for his money back (the audacity) then (im guessing maybe he done it of his own free will, i doubt it tho as he done 0 wrong) made him appologise ITT and made him pay for dinner LOL and didnt send ful amount back :? guess we will never know

gl grindation hope you play less scummyer people next time <3

Do not conceit yourself. Tbh you guys have zero influence on me or my business. The decision I made to pay him full is based on my personal moral judgment, not your opinions.

I'm a bit confused but I understand this is the timeline:
- blind out grindation for 12k to 'protect him from loss'
- ignore grindation on stars chat
- go to sleep (with zero effort to contact or send back the minimum)
- ignore grindation for 17 hours on skype ( what owner of a huge stable with an office is not on Skype for a 17 hour period ever btw?)
- become triggered you stole 12k from someone and ignored them and they had the audacity to question the morals of your stable so you charge them 500euros
-realize you're insane and refund said 500euros




...and you did this to protect him!

Did I understand right? Some1 uses autoregister tool (that sits you vs fish exclusively), even if he realizes risk of using it, then his pc goes crazy and he lost money. Legendary HU player sits him and take his blinds, with intention to send it back ( as he did it every single time ). Person who lost money goes crazy, blames him and spams forums and ****talks about smartspin. Well, I really hope life will punish this ungreatfull peace of **** and he will get blinded out by some fish next time!

lol

you seem to be a smart guy.. lol

Either that or he's another badu-blind-out having to grovel for his own money back

No martins, you didnt understand it right. And you can crawl out of baku's ass.

I'm not sng HU reg is it common knowledge not to sit on already taken table in this case one person is already waiting for an opponent to avoid playing with other regs?

It's been common knowledge since 2009.

I'm back from a break and started sitting the 15s and it's very obvious that there is some kind of group of players constantly sitting me. Is there a cartel at 15s and if so, what are the conditions to join?

The players seem to all be from Hungary.

bBe Hungarian

if one sits you then just sit him until he declines you if you think you have an edge and the bankroll

you don't want to let battle 2-3 different guys at a time while they all have fish games up on the side

if they take your lobby then take all of theirs so they don't get any hourly either

don't think there have rules or whatever but they left me alone pretty fast

In Sharky, when having 'Aggressive Registering' unticked, is it necessary and does it help to tick 'Aggressive Scanning' to avoid being simulsat with a reg who has probably ticked 'Aggressive Registering'?

I'm trying to figure out if I was being simulsat with the same reg at the $7s because of some mismatch of our settings or if the reg had set Sharky to sit/autorematch all unknown players.

When I turned 'Aggressive Scanning' on, the 'simulsits' stopped, but it might have been because the reg might coincidentally have either stopped their session or given me a colour tag after a few rematches.

I think you get simulsat if they manually reg and you have aggressive registering/high ping

I don't think you need aggressive scanning checked it sounds like he isnt using sharky and is manually regging to the game right before or after you

not sure though

There is no sophisticated group for 15`s atm. Some players seem to target the weaker regulars with some mediocre success. I think the waitlist has become very long during the last year or so (weekends are ok though.)

Imo 15`s group could be established, but then again it`s such low stakes and the player pool is such that managing it would be hard. Even at 30`s group there are some caps during weekends where they can not manage themselves and fish could be found registering empty lobbies (at least sometimes.)

15`s group would be extremely hard to manage during weekends so probably it is just more +EV to wait for fish on weekends atm.. During regular week days I think group would work just fine because there is a lot of weaker regs on the waitlist currently.

In the near future (if stars does not change the lobby system totally) I think a group on 15`s is necessary. Imo players from Eastern-Europe are driven to establish one because 10 bucks/hour is a good deal for them.

Anyway, I guess that some of the regs of the 7s and esp. 3.50s aren't selective, sit anyone at offpeak hours when they fail to get a game soon enough. I have to admit that HU is more soul-crushing than (blind-lobby) spins

Thinking more about it, paradoxically, it might be a good idea to decline regs at 3.50s, especially if the lobby is non-empty - they might just sit the other guy in the lobby instead of me. This is contrary to the etiquette of the 7s+, where declining a reg after the 1st game would make him sense the smell of blood and add me onto the sitlist, or even if he sits every unknown player (which makes sense when the lobby is wide open), accepting him a few times and playing kinda balanced earns me a spot on his avoid list. Some 3.50s regs seem to lack the business attitude and fail to recognise that rematching me for the 10th time is less profitable than getting out after the 6th game and opensitting to get a random fish.

As usual, you're putting way too much thought into this. At stakes/times where lobbies are open, in general (from an EV perspective) you should decline regs 100% unless someone starts targeting you. From a life perspective, running from $3.50 "regs" strikes me as a bit unnecessary, though.