didn't realise Sscope showed small wins/losses when you chop an SnG.. that's pretty good

Obv scope doesnt know when you chop. Not sure I understand your post....

no, I am saying it DOES know when you chop

yeah sharkscope shows the chops

You are incorrect...obviously.

He means it shows deals.

im really not, I can see a chop I did earlier

Was it done thru the site with the moderator?

ftp has a magical chop button

ss uses the summaries i believe, the summaries show the chop i think.

hi there - i always like to look at hands of pros as a beginner. may i ask why you did not ship it on the turn? as you are almost committed.

..and as i am not english native - what do you mean by "owned"?

You must be talking about something other than an HUSNG. I was referring to an instance where 2 regs inadvertently sit one another and agree to chop in lieu of actually playing the match....just push and ship. This would not be in scope.

Also, a partnered 4 man would be chopped if the partners both reach Rd 2, which would also not be in scope.

What other "chop" would one encounter in an HUSNG?

zomfg, just read the posts above you

do you not play on full tilt? I guess not

Wingpin - I think i know the problem. FTP recently added a "make a deal" feature. So both players can agree to chop up the money without playing. So there isn't a need to ship all in and flip it out.

he has a pot-sized bet left, how is that committed?

as for the second question: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=owned

No..I dont. Are you talking about HUSNG? I guess not?

I see...I've never played on Full Tilt. Makes sense....thanks for the explanation.

the ftp deal feature works for any non-satellite tournament or SNG that either is 1-table or has gotten down to 1-table, include HUSNGs. (the are some exception like the daily double tournaments which would be screwed up by deals)

i said ALMOST committed...

I wouldn't start taking lines/plays like this at lower levels. ABC solid poker is the name of the game at smaller stakes. But i'll explain why i played it like that.

I've played the villain before and i'm confident in my read that he'll at least c/r the turn with hands that beat me. I know he's a station and capable of hero calling. When the turn card falls, i think the std line for most people would be to bet and check behind a lot of rivers. But when i bet the turn, i know that if all/most draws miss, i can value shove light and be hero called by lower pairs. Basically, i play my hand like i would if i had a flush draw, except i wouldn't be shoving the river if i miss vs this guy (he thinks i would, which is why he called light) because i know he's a station.

Shoving the turn doesn't make any sense, as i wouldn't do this with any of my range. When i bet 220 on the turn, it also sets the pot up nicely for a shove given stack sizes.

I'm kinda drunk right now, but if you don't understand my reasons, i'll go over it with you over AIM/MSN if you want, when i have some time (just PM me)

"owned" means, villain thought he was 1 level ahead of me, expecting me to shove msised draws there etc, but he didn't know i was capable of value shoving kinda light.

everyone who plays these 4 mans like me beware imo..pretty scummy stuff i see this dude sitting 4 mans all the time...

I think we should all just keep sitting him and own his life. He never accepts rematches and is a nit, so lets bust him for being a douche

wow man. Very well said. When i saw that hand i didnt know if u shoved for value or thought ur hand was better off as a bluff givin this villian.

Ur explanation is very thurough and well thought out and maybe im missing some value spots like this.

wpwp

hey man - many thanks you took so much time to explain and answer. all understood. and i know i should not play like this at my level - i just learnt the hard way that at my level abc poker is the thing.

cant find the 40k hu gtd on ftp, anyone?

edit: 20k gtd, found it, nvm