What would you do in this spot? Opponent is passive, always calls preflop, always, post flop is not aggressive, caller station...
Thanks


Seat 1: skazz1 (2240)
Seat 2: Hero (1760)
skazz1 posts the small blind (30)
Hero posts the big blind (60)
** hole cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 8h, Ad ]
skazz1 calls (30)
Hero raise 120 to 180
skazz1 calls (120)
** Flop ** : [ As, Ts, 2h ]
Hero checks
skazz1 bet (60)
Hero raise 240 to 240
skazz1 raise 360 to 420
Hero calls (180)
** Turn ** : [ 8d ]

Hero?

why r u checking flop vs a passive??

Because I would to know if he have an Ace or not... He certainly bet at the flop but if he do small bet I know that he probably have an Ax or medium pair... With this small bet I sure enough that I'm forward in the hand.If he have nothing and I bet he certainly fold. Is Wrong?

Bet flop.

He doesn't certainly bet the flop if he's passive, and you're missing value if he checks back his midpair or bot pair.

What I don't know is how you are doing vs his bet/3bet range, but I think its not that good :/

On the turn bet for value

Oh man...

- I prefer to keep weak Ax in my checking range preflop, so I can legit bluff Ah flops when I check. I raise about 20% in this spot against this villain, obviously for value, with any two broadway or 9.

- not cbetting here is the worst possible play by far.
Except for check raising.

Think:
- if villain is passive, is he bluffing?
- us he betting worse than an ace?
- is he calling a checkraise with worse than an ace?
- is he THREE BETTING the flop with worse than an ace?

You played this hand in just such a way that you likely beat near nothing in villains range. You first under rep, then over rep your hand. You lost almost all value from worse by check raising, and isolated his better hands to three bet. Now you have a decent portion of your stack in the middle with the worst of it a majority of the time.

Try thinking about his range as a sliding scale. Pretend he doesn't have an actual hand, but a range dictated by the action in the hand.
If he limps preflop any two cards, he has exactly that. Then he calls the raise with only X%. He had X. He bets with Y, but calls with Z. Against some players, X is weaker than Z. Others, vice versa. You dictated the strength of his hand in the way you played yours.

Here, you crush his flop cbet callig range.
Why not bet?

Also, you said you wanted to know if he has an ace.
Well...now that he bet/3b, does he?
What do you really know?
Why call the 3b?

If he raise more my raise on the flop I probably fold but he re raise only 360... At this point I Thought that I don't have a strong hand (no set, no A 10) He only beat me with A9, AJ, AQ, AK. But at the flop, after my check he bet only 60. This bet represents or a monster or a draw. But with AK or AQ he certanly bet more than 60, I excluded set and two pair, then remains a draw maybe Ks 10s

Ronin I call the 3 bet because it is very small... At this level (3 dollars in italian poker room .it and not .com the general level of players is many many low) Is not possible to do very intelligent moves vs this opponents. At the flop if I bet he probably calls and I have not idea of his hand... But I'm in this forum for improve my poker, but I think is important I tell you that you must to cosiderate the low level of 3 dollars in italy.

Probably - he could bet a number of hands here; Draws, mid pair's, weaker A's, stronger A's, pairs + draws, sets, 2 pairs, air.

If he's not aggressive post flop (like you said) then you give him a chance to check behind and draw to all his pairs for free AND you miss a lot of bets that he would call with mid pair or flush draws or weaker A's.

If you expect him to fold to a raise when he doesn't have a hand because he is very passive then, whatever - your not gonna be able to c/r his bluff because he just wont bluff that often. He's a passive call station - just think about how to get money from him.



Sweet - if you don't have to make big plays and "intelligent moves" then just play abc and get paid.

Also - why are you raising his limp with this hand if you don't know what to do post flop when you hit top pair? Just take Ronins advice - pretty solid.


It's good that your posting here trying to improve your game - gl

Thank you guys! I,m very happy to read your advice... This forum is very very nice and you are very availables to help us beginner players. MRRuns, Ronin, Kismetdog and Docdevil Thanks!

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