PokerStars - 15/30 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
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BB: 12 BB
Hero (SB): 21.33 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 4

Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (2 BB, 2 players) K J 5
BB checks, Hero bets 1 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Turn: (4 BB, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero bets 2 BB, BB calls 2 BB

River: (8 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets 2 BB, BB calls 2 BB

So, do you guys think, that turn barrel is too wide here? Should I just check majority of my range? Although I have some equity, I don't really know how many backdoors people float here.

And then on the river, as I unblock his busted draws, I decided to bet very small here. I expect all of Jx and 5x to call and I hope, that he has enough missed draws that he can c/f. Time to open up Flopzilla I think as I might be walking on a very thin ice.

Oh, btw, villain had 56 % SB VPIP if that helps. Other than that I have no reads.

I would bet at least 3/4 on turn, you don't really get many folds here using this sizing, and if he is vipi SB 56% then he definitely isnt floating BDFD on the flop. on river wont betting 1bb accomplish the same thing? i expect this fish is likely to bluff himself anything worse than T high so your just targetting Qx....

This is a bit speculative. Maybe he overfolds maybe he doesnt. You need some low equity bluffs on turn. On river any hand w/o clubs is fine to bluff but I would never bet this sizing as it doesnt make sense with any value hand. All in or check would be my options there.

hi,

what about folding preflop?

I guess its fine to fold the lowest 10-15% of your range but ive seen a lot of players limping up to 100% pre, also winning players... so i might be wrong.

Best regards
lx4dr

I prefer to use 3/4p sizing ott, too. But we are quite shallow here and therefore we won't have as much fold equity on the river.

But on the other hand, we can get more chips in the middle. Hmm, not sure. Maybe betting bigger is better even this shallow.

About the river and missed draw. I think it's villain dependent. Some people bluff missed draws, some don't. And I am not sure which one is more common (should look into my db and figure it out).

1 bb bet would get looked up fairly often. But yeah, maybe even 2 bb bet.

Thing is, that if I cbet a broadway board like this one and I turn some equity, I am not very happy about it, as the low cards don't create too much fold equity. But this might be a leak of mine.

You are right. I definitely underbluff such spot. But anyway, people defend less then they should, so I think I should be fine.

And yeah, prolly just rip it in. There's just one thing. It's a paired board now. So I am really aiming just missed draws. And maybe even 5x can hero call here (although he will not have many of those)

You can play 100 %, unless villain will give you a reason not to. EV of limping bottom range is > EV open folding.

Fold preflop.

Theory of playing 100 % might be correct in the papers and EV of limping bottom is better than open folding sounds good, but it doesn't translate to money making.

What is the ISO (shove or not) percentage of your stake's population at 12BB effective? Because at my stake, they give me a lot of reasons to openfold 84.

Continuing on the flop, turn and river with this hand is 100% speculative and any advice on turn and river is complete nonsense. You 're in the dark here!
You are overthinking of a play that should never have reached the river.
(at the very best you can cbet the flop, since you decided to limp)

If I played with you and saw you do that play at showdown, I would definitely give you reasons not to play 100%, especially at 12BB! A decent player will exploit you soon enough if these ranges come up on your behalf.

Hope this helps.

lol sorry but this is complete nonsense, if open folding is -50bb/100 and limping is -25bb/100, than it increases total ev bb/100 and directly translates in to making more money
as for hand im stabbing flop and giving up

Even GTO limps 84o here at 12bb your opponent needs to be iso like 43+% here to consider folding it. given the rest of your response and narrow mindedness i am going to guess you are a 30s or lower reg and i would advise OP to ignore everything said in his post, there is nothing wrong with betting flop vs opponent who is clearlyt a fish, and turn and river are all up for discussion

also back to the river, i actually thought you meant betting river if villain checked to you, im not sure why you think people donk there missed draws are you barreled turn half pot? because this is very unlikely true unless playing a maniac, but i also dont mind bet flop and turn and then bluff river 1bb, but it may be sup optimal, but bluffing BXB 1bb on river is going to do very well and same as BXB 2bb imo