Quote:
Originally Posted by 8Hazey8
I find that checking to induce works really well given villlain is barreling and bluffing plenty. If you flop a K or A pair on dry boards checking back flop confuses villain and they own themselves betting turn and river w/ 2nd/3rd pair/air.
Also if you have a strongish 2nd pair and you don't want a huge pot/can't go for 3 streets of value/hate getting raised, esp on drawy boards, I love: cbetting flop, checking turn and letting villain fire air/weak hands for value on the river. e.g. raise 910, cbet Q107ss, they call, turn 3, I love checking here, then snapping villains pot bet when draws miss.
ummm, the face that the penguin is making is the same face i made when i read this post. this is absolutely awful advice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8Hazey8
I find that checking to induce works really well given villlain is barreling and bluffing plenty. If you flop a K or A pair on dry boards checking back flop confuses villain and they own themselves betting turn and river w/ 2nd/3rd pair/air.
Checking back your top pairs is not a good idea (unless the kicker is weak, in which case the hand plays more like a 2nd pair good kicker type hand). Betting the flop is a much better idea with top pair good kicker type hands. A maniac will likely c/r you with a weak holding and you can usually call all streets and let him hang himself. btw, maniacs own themselves betting turn and river anyway, no matter what you do. Suggesting that you not value bet a hand that clearly merits a value bet is f'n ******ed and goes against the very foundation of good poker.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8Hazey8
Also if you have a strongish 2nd pair and you don't want a huge pot/can't go for 3 streets of value/hate getting raised, esp on drawy boards, I love: cbetting flop, checking turn and letting villain fire air/weak hands for value on the river. e.g. raise 910, cbet Q107ss, they call, turn 3, I love checking here, then snapping villains pot bet when draws miss.
Again, terrible advice. Checking back the flop accomplishes the same thing AND you don't risk getting c/r'd like you do by betting the flop. He's a maniac, right? Do you really think maniacs just call OOP with their draws? No. They c/r. Good job, you've just helped villian build a pot when you have 2nd pair diarrhea kicker on a very coordinated board. Checking back your 2nd pairs for pot control is a better idea.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8Hazey8
Also if you have a strongish 2nd pair and you hate getting raised, I love: cbetting flop
How does "if you hate getting raised then you should bet" make any sense at all???