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help with odd opponent who min raises almost every hand between 12bb and about 6bb help with odd opponent who min raises almost every hand between 12bb and about 6bb

04-24-2022 , 05:46 AM
Hey all

So I am dealing with this odd opponent who, like the title states, min raises a lot below 12bb and pretty much c-bets every flop. The problem is that lately its like I hit nothing and, and if I have a draw I am pretty much all-in to chase it just to hope I hit it. How would you handle a player like this?

Generally when below 10bb I don't go into push/fold until about 6bb. If the player is really weak post-flop I may take it to 4bb. I do jam A2o, and A6-A9o below 10bb, and will jam K6-K9o as well. I Also jam lower pocket pairs. Other than that I pretty much limp everything with a few min raises thrown in if I find the villain is particularly nitty.

I was thinking the best course of action for this villain would be to start with push/fold at 10bb with a range of strong hands that don't play as well post flop ie. small pockets, Q9-Q10, K6-K9, A2, A6-A9, and occasionally jam with some premium hands to keep him honest. Does this sound like a good approach?
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04-25-2022 , 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by silky28
Hey all

So I am dealing with this odd opponent who, like the title states, min raises a lot below 12bb and pretty much c-bets every flop. The problem is that lately its like I hit nothing and, and if I have a draw I am pretty much all-in to chase it just to hope I hit it. How would you handle a player like this?
3bet a lot and when you call, than xraise flop a lot. In general play a lot more loose-aggressive, if you flop a draw, dont chase it, just xjam.

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Originally Posted by silky28
I was thinking the best course of action for this villain would be to start with push/fold at 10bb with a range of strong hands that don't play as well post flop ie. small pockets, Q9-Q10, K6-K9, A2, A6-A9, and occasionally jam with some premium hands to keep him honest. Does this sound like a good approach?
No, you dont want to do that, you still want to play good amount of hands, just widen your 3bet, you still want to flat his minraises quite wide.
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04-25-2022 , 10:03 AM
If he folds a lot to nai 3bets then do that. If he folds a lot to jams then do that. If he folds to c/r a lot then do that.And if he bets 80+ of the flops then you can go in with pretty loose range.

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Originally Posted by none888
if you flop a draw, dont chase it, just xjam..
This. Run your good equity otf.
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04-25-2022 , 12:53 PM
Thanks!

So basically when I flop a draw just jam to take the equity I have + fold equity?


Side note: he really only does this when his opponent is below 12bb - when he is below he plays a more or less push/fold.
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04-25-2022 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by silky28
Thanks!

So basically when I flop a draw just jam to take the equity I have + fold equity?


Side note: he really only does this when his opponent is below 12bb - when he is below he plays a more or less push/fold.
Yeah just run it. Otherwise you just end up folding your stack away if you don't improve ott. That's weird strat to minraise against shorties. Maybe the pool plays so badly and overfolds short it's +ev who knows.
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04-26-2022 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Esa_Perse
Yeah just run it. Otherwise you just end up folding your stack away if you don't improve ott. That's weird strat to minraise against shorties. Maybe the pool plays so badly and overfolds short it's +ev who knows.
Well the player pool is not great I can tell you that...but I don't think this guy is playing exploitative he is just raising every hand thinking he will get a lot of fold, if he hits he goes with it, and cbets everything to get folds. My problem has been that he keeps killing me with worse hands and its really hitting my EV hard. But ya, I am just going to have to start jamming over the top of his c-bets when I have some equity in the hand.
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04-26-2022 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by silky28
Well the player pool is not great I can tell you that...but I don't think this guy is playing exploitative he is just raising every hand thinking he will get a lot of fold, if he hits he goes with it, and cbets everything to get folds. My problem has been that he keeps killing me with worse hands and its really hitting my EV hard. But ya, I am just going to have to start jamming over the top of his c-bets when I have some equity in the hand.
well it sounds that he is exploiting you, doesnt really matter intentionally or not.
this is one of those spots where you have to do your math.
Check ranges, check needed fold equity, check how wide you can x/jam, could be possible even 2 overs are enough. And keep an eye on how is he reacting.
And dont forget to 3bet a lot. If he minraises every hand 10bb, you are effectively starting hand at 5bb and oop, so shipping nash 5bb os ranges would be no brainer.
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04-26-2022 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by none888
well it sounds that he is exploiting you, doesnt really matter intentionally or not.
this is one of those spots where you have to do your math.
Check ranges, check needed fold equity, check how wide you can x/jam, could be possible even 2 overs are enough. And keep an eye on how is he reacting.
And dont forget to 3bet a lot. If he minraises every hand 10bb, you are effectively starting hand at 5bb and oop, so shipping nash 5bb os ranges would be no brainer.
Ranges on this player are no existent. I’ve jammed his min raises and he comes up with anything from 2-5o, to 10-9o, to JJ. That is why I asked earlier if I might as well just play a 10bb Nash jamming range on this guy.

I’how can I non-all in 3bet him at 10bb? He raises 2, i 3bet to 4 he calls now I’m 6bb effective into a pot of 8...at that point is it just a matter of jamming all over pairs and draws if the flop is missed?
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04-27-2022 , 10:17 AM
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Ranges on this player are no existent. I’ve jammed his min raises and he comes up with anything from 2-5o, to 10-9o, to JJ. That is why I asked earlier if I might as well just play a 10bb Nash jamming range on this guy.

I’how can I non-all in 3bet him at 10bb? He raises 2, i 3bet to 4 he calls now I’m 6bb effective into a pot of 8...at that point is it just a matter of jamming all over pairs and draws if the flop is missed?
The point is if he mr folds that shallow then abuse that. If not then look at your call allin range with that depth and jam a bit tighter.
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