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Is this a good/bad spot to raise thin-value on the river?

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07-07-2013 , 10:48 PM

jyt

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 65

I'm wondering what you make of my raise on the river with 2 pair. Is this a +ev spot to make a thin value-raise on the river here? or it this move -ev?

Poker Stars $1.38+$0.12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t1140 57 BBs
BB: t1860 93 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 5

Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 6

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t120) J

(2 players)
BB bets t20, Hero calls t20

River: (t160) 7

(2 players)
BB bets t160, Hero raises to t360, BB calls t200

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07-08-2013 , 02:57 AM

deathdan

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Do you mean good vs an unknown? Usually minbet+psb is a strong line from a random micro player, your raise is certainly thinnish, unfortunately I can't run a stove on my Phone. Sometimes you see K9/KT or even KQ/AK if they are very passive pf, but in my experience you are beat a good % of the time when he calls that river raise, especially since the 7 is not a brick for his range.

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07-08-2013 , 03:07 AM

iL1keTurtles

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Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,070

bad, just flat

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07-08-2013 , 04:14 AM

funky_melon

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 104

You have to ask yourself what are you getting value from with this raise. I think you had mostly Kx in mind, but honestly naked king plays rarely this way imo and could even fold to a raise. He could have rivered 2p, straight, small flush, sometimes single pair hands. Vs this range it's better to call, maybe if we have top two pair we could consider smallish raise.
That being said, I'm nowhere near top skill level, just my 2c

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07-09-2013 , 10:34 AM

kaimac

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Originally Posted by iL1keTurtles

bad, just flat

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07-09-2013 , 10:52 AM

jyt

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 65

What does psb mean? But yeah I do think my raise was a mistake as there are too many combos on the board opp could have if I raise here. And so true min-bet + big river shove looks very strong here I'll remember that. Opp ended up showing the flush so I played this hand wrong. Thanks guys.

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07-09-2013 , 04:07 PM

watergun7

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psb = pot sized bet. You get called/raised here by better much more often than called by worse, so it's a self-owning value raise.

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