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08-05-2012 , 12:03 AM
This is my leakfinder for Antibacteria, a $15/30 Hyper reg on Lock. I think this is a great session to look at because it's a perfect example of a solid player who plays a great game, but makes a few big errors that are going to be costly in the long run unless corrected. That's no slight on Antibacteria, he is capable of crushing these stakes, but hopefully will crush a little harder after my notes

Here's the link to the video:

http://www.screencast.com/t/R23S7K9R1El

Video starts at :45. Below are my notes, I recommend pulling them up beside the video and comparing your thoughts to mine. There are several spots where I wasn't sure or I felt that others would disagree with me, so any suggestions/feedback on hands are welcome.

1:00 (Ac7c): Nice hand. It sucks when he c/minraises turn, but not folding here. I would immediately make a note that
he donked pot with a big draw and c/mraised the turn when he hit.

1:57(A7o): This is close, I think I jam over if it's suited or A8o, but flatting the double raise seems fine. I also
fold flop.

2:15(94o): I fold here readless until I know villain either folds too much pre or plays too fit/fold post.

2:42(K2o): I think flatting is better on flop, reason being you have a pot sized bet left on turn, so you can get it in
very easy regardless of what he does. As played, I'd raise 90 instead of 100 cause it looks less intimidating to fishies.

3:30(64o): Nice hand. At this point I would label this guy a spewy fish and note that he 3barreled a bad board to
3barrel for stacks.

4:05(Qc9c): I jam over too, and this is another mega noteworthy hand. 3x/calling J5o here lets us jam over with tons of
value when stacks get shallow whenever he raises.

4:29(J3o): Back to back spew from him, I would combine this note with the last one and just put "Raise/calls garbage
shallow, jam over VALUE ONLY."

5:00(Q9o): I think mr/call is much better against this villain because 1:He's gonna jam over with tons worse and
2. When flatted, Q9o plays great postflop and we still have a bit of maneuverability even though stacks are shallow.

6:42(Q5o): This is your first big mistake in my opinion. Open jamming Q5o for 11bb is gonna be your worst option- if you
look at the Nash chart, Q5o is a shove for 9bb. Also this guy is calling off pre incredibly wide, so Q5o isn't gonna
fare so well. I think the best play here is to mr/fold, it sucks when he jams over but it's better to risk an extra bb
to win his bb than to risk your whole stack here.

8:47(Q7o): An alternative play might be to flat pre and open jam any flop. You're going all in preflop anyway, this might
force him to make some bad folds on the flop once in a blue moon.

9:48(Jh9h): I c/r here as default with top pair, gutshots, 7x, OESD. As played, I would lead river for value against
Jx once we make the best two pair. At this point we don't know if the guy is a reg or fish so we assume fish and try to
take the best line against a fish to get value, so leading river here seems best. Also I would note that villain
is capable of barreling turned equity and is likely minraising very wide.

10:30(KJo): I'm not convinced this is a mr/call at 17bb without further reads. We need 44% equity to call, and assuming
a range of Ax, pairs, and some broadways, we don't have the equity to call. He needs to have a decent amount of bluffs
in his range to give us the equity to call, and as a default I think most players don't at 17bb, so I make what some
might see as a nitty fold. If it was suited I'd snap, though, getting the extra 3% equity from the suitedness.

11:20(K6o): This is the maniac guy from earlier, and this is a spot where, 100 games down the line, having notes on this
guy will make you a lot of money. I'd note this hand that me mindonked two streets with air and halfpotted river, so his
sizings seem random as a bluff.

11:26(T7o): This is a nitty fold. I'm snap calling this against almost anyone at this stack depth, especially this guy
since he spews so hard. Folding T6o though.

11:30(KJo): Exact same situation as earlier, except here I'd snap call a jam since we have solid reads on villain's
tendencies.

11:47(KTo): Jam is fine, but I prefer a flat 17bb against this guy because KT plays well post and again, he spews so hard.

12:30(J8o): I just fold against his minbet. He's exploiting himself by minbetting there cause he gives you great odds
to flat whenever you do have a hand. Also, this guy just seems to be clicking buttons- a bad recipe for bluffing. As
played, I think giving up on turn is definitely best.

12:55(K4o): If I had two overs to the 5 I'd peel flop.

13:05(Td6d): This is your second big mistake. If I'm reading your HUD right, he's minraised 80% over a sample of
82 hands. This is enough to make Td6d a snap jam over here, really any suited Tx. If you haven't already,
google "Insane Steve's 3bet Calculator" and find the 2p2 thread about it and download it. It gives you the profit in
Big Blinds from jamming over a minraise or 3x at different stack depths. Basically, at 17bb, if villain is raising
80%, there's no calling range possible for him to have where jamming Td6d is worse than folding. This is a spot you should
put a lot of effort into studying, especially since you're playing with a HUD and can make some great generalizations
about preflop ranges based on the stats you're given. I play HUDless, so when I watch someone play who has a HUD these
mistakes instantly pop out at me. This is a very common spot that will cost you tons of money in the long run if you
continue to pass it up.


13:27(QQ): Definitely don't jam here. We're ~13bb deep, plenty of value to be had postflop from a bad player. I'd go
around 80 chips against this guy, even 70 or a minraise might be better- bottom line is you're losing tons of value by
jamming this pre.


13:37(85o): This is a gameflow fold. You just jammed his limp, he's more likely to spew shove the next hand. As played,
I'd just jam over his flop lead this shallow. He's donked enough that our hand is generally strong enough here to jam and
expect to get a fold alot of the time and have decent equity when called against his range. As played played, I also call
down once we hit two pair on the turn.


14:40(94o): I fold here, 95o being the bottom of my 9x unsuited raising range. Also, on a side note, I've
played against Kebo many times, and I never marked him as decent, which means he did something that made me
label him bad. We'll see if anything pops up.

14:58(QJo): It looks like you're inconsistent with your preflop decisions. You folded the Td6d 16bb against
an 80% opener, but you jam QJo 23bb against a 64% opener. This is definitely a flat pre, the hand plays
great post and almost certainly has better expectation flatting than jamming.

15:22(Q8o): Maybe you had reads or something, but this is another standard flat at 20bb. I noticed you
3bet jammed against me a lot as well- the thing is the EV you lose from not flatting very playable hands
like QJ and Q8o will catch up to you in the long run. I'd rather jam something like 65ss because it's
bottom of our flatting range and plays better against a calling range.

15:34(Ks3s): This is more reasonable, the hand is kind of janky postflop and his raise % seems to be rising
and we're 18bb instead of 20-25, which makes the chips we pick up more valuable in relation
to effective stacks.

15:53(AJ): Perfect time to pick up AJ, and I like the jam here after jamming his past 3 raises.


16:10(ATo): I cbet 30 here instead of 40, we are short enough that we can afford to go a bit smaller and get
a slightly wider calling range or encourage villain to jam over more often. Also, Kebo seems to be on the
nitty side, so a bet of 30 makes it easier for him to call. On the turn, I'd go 60-70, I think half pot here
looks super strong and not bluffy given how shallow you are. As played river jam is standard, and I would
make a super note that he flatted 84dd 16bb and called down with fourth pair no kicker. Now we know why I
didn't label him decent!

16:45(96o): I'd minraise or limp here for sure. Kebo has played super passive pre and post, his only aggro
factor seems to be a highish preflop raise, and we can assume that he's playing fit/fold post since we havent
been c/r or played back at in any spots.

17:09(44): Not that his jam is bad, but it's definitely a note to take to help you whittle down his ranges
when stacks get shallow for jamming.

17:12(67o): Folding is your worst option here. You have 3 legitimate options: limp, mr/fold, or open jam.
Against Kebo I would lean toward mr/fold, since he plays so poorly post and he's not jamming over us wide
pre. At 8bb I would just take my preflop fold equity and jam.

17:23(Q2o): Pay close attention to these spots and what hands you are folding. 9bb deep here, Q2o is just
short of a Nash jam. That said, I like a mr/fold here much better than open folding and think it will be
more profitable than forfeiting your sb.

17:41(8cTc): Against this guy I'd rather check. His limp is 6%, I would assume there's some traps and
strong hands in that range. Also, we still have a little maneuverability at 8bb post against a passive
opponent.

17:47(67o): Same thing as last time, definitely don't fold, I prefer a mr/fold.

19:19(A9o): I'd raise 4x to 80, reason being Ax plays poorly postflop, so we want to get more preflop value.
Also with a hand like Ax we're not getting additional value postflop, since when we bet an Axx flop villain
will already give us credit for having an A. I'd go 3x with the broadways and big pairs, since they have
more playability.

19:40(Q9o): I would already label this guy a passive fish, and Q9o gets raised to 60 here for value.

20:00(T5o): Nice hand. I'd bet slightly bigger on turn, 90-100, for slightly more value. I like the river
check back and we get to see that villain is super passive preflop and super stationy postflop.

21:35(27hh): I haven't seen what you did yet on turn, I'm going to say I hope you overbet shove. We just saw
villain flat a J7xdd flop with A high, so on a flop like this his range is super wide for floating. He will
have all gutshots, 3x, possibly even some backdoor flush type hands like J8dd. The turn is the ****tiest
card to shove, but it also makes it more unlikely that he has Kx. I don't assume he's folding 9x, but I do
assume he's folding all his non paired hands, which is a wide part of his range, and POSSIBLY 3X. Ok, he
shows up with Kx, but that doesn't change my mind about the hand.

22:20(75o): I stab flop here 40 chips. We know he's a station, but on a mono flop fish usually won't
call without a spade, and besides the spade it's a pretty dry flop.


22:30(65o): I'd minraise or limp, take your pick. He's just too passive not to take advantage.

23:02(Tc9c): I think you should definitely lead this turn for value. He's going to check back a lot of stuff
that will call a bet on the turn (Qx, 9x, anything that picked up spades on turn, TJ,etc), so bet and
get your value.

23:54(98o): I'd either stab flop here 50 chips or stab turn. I think his range is wide enough that you
get open folds enough for it to be more profitable than checking down your no showdown value 9 high.

25:41(J7o): This is a standard flat preflop. I also flat J6o, folding J5o as standard. You'll do better
expectation wise flatting than folding.

27:26(4d5d): If your HUD stats are accurate this is an easy jam.

28:44(6h4h): I'd bet 50, no need to bet 1/2 pot this shallow. Super note worthy that he flats J4o at all,
let alone this shallow.

28:55(A3hh): I would note his jam, it's slightly wider than Nash at 8bb, something to keep an eye out for.

29:00- Nice finish to the video!

I think your overall game is very solid. My suggestions:

1. Fine tune your ranges for raising preflop and for calling a raise. You are missing out on EV by folding
marginal hands that can and should be flatted pre, and you're also missing out on marginal spots shallow
where you can do better than folding my minraising, limping, or open shoving.

2. Be hyper aware of your opponent's playstyle and tendencies, and this includes NOTE TAKING. Especially on
Lock, we have the privilege of being sat many times by the same fish over and over. I see guys coming back
for more punishment againt me all the time. What they don't know is that I have tons of notes on them with an
encyclopaedia on how to exploit them.

3. Be careful with your 3bet jams- I'm assuming you had some kind of read on Kebo, since you weren't as jam
happy in your other games. Still, I think your QJ and Q8o jams were sub-optimal compared to flatting. Also,
you missed a couple standard jams, like the Td6d hand and the 4d5d hand. If you haven't already, google
"Insane Steve's 3bet Shove Calculator" and look for the 2p2 thread with the same name. Download his
calculator and play around with calling ranges and jamming ranges until you get a feel for how you should
play at different stack depths.
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08-05-2012 , 12:22 AM
Just wanted to say thanks again!! This is awesome that you are willing to give away free leak finders, I plan to go over your notes/video by tomorrow.
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08-05-2012 , 02:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zachaser
8:47(Q7o): An alternative play might be to flat pre and open jam any flop. You're going all in preflop anyway, this might
force him to make some bad folds on the flop once in a blue moon.
This is interesting I never thought about doing this when shallow.
I wondered before though do things like this make your allin ev go down?
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08-05-2012 , 04:08 AM
I just watched this video with your notes up, they are very good imo. Thanks for doing this.
I've definitely spotted a few of my leaks in there, such as being too tight preflop (both IP and OOP) and not 3bet jamming wide enough vs loose openers.
Thanks again

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08-05-2012 , 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by riveredu
This is interesting I never thought about doing this when shallow.
I wondered before though do things like this make your allin ev go down?
I dont find zachaser suggestion here good, bc with Q7o u dont have to do that. he said that he will do some "bad folds" but this bad folds will be mostly all hands which we would dominate anyway. All his pairs and Aces and kings also all his better queens will call to any bet. U will only fold out all his air and worser hands than ours. If u do that, then do that with your bottom range and not with Q7o.

Last edited by JArul3; 08-05-2012 at 06:13 PM.
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08-05-2012 , 06:37 PM
Makes sense, but my question was does doing things like this make your ev line go down?
Especially if your doing it with the bottom of your range on the flop, where you can, a lot of the times have fk all equity compared to shoving pre where you'll at least have some decent equity?
I realise moneys more important, not stupid lines but does that mean it can be manipulated?
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08-05-2012 , 10:04 PM
in the shortrun it can be manipulated, but in the long run your ev line will still go up.

u need also to keep in mind, that your equity is not always f* up, there are also time where u hit the flop and your equity gets up. So its all about variance.
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08-06-2012 , 11:11 PM
I'd say very thorough and in-depth analysis by zachaster. Here are some of my thoughts:

1:57 (A7o): given villain 3bets 17%, I think his min-3bet is really strong, so jamming over if suited or A8o maybe too loose. I don't think I'm jamming until at least A8s+/A9o+. As played, WP. 2:23 he min 3bet again, now I'm thinking his min-3bets are perhaps not as strong as I had anticipated.

2:33 (K2o): definitely flatting is better than raising flop. He would have 3bet Ax pre, rainbow, you want him to continue with his bluffs and semi-bluffs.

3:11 (A6s): villain donks flop again. I don't mind the fold but he is doing this quite a bit, if there is a spot to raise this is it, I could see myself raising this up to 90.
Indeed22 is showing his stripes, calling jams @ 15bb with J5o and @ 21bb with J3o, 3barreling paired board for stacks, spewy fish indeed.

5:00(Q9o): not sure I agree about mr instead of jamming. We know villain min3bets but also flats and donks, barrels, so if he flats and takes control, Q9 could become v. difficult to play postflop. Given he is willing to gii with J-rag I think straight jamming preflop is fine.

9:48 (Jh9h): I would flat 7x. There is no OESD here. I would flat Jx as well but I could see a ch/r as a viable option given some reads..readless, I think you fold out too much so basically I would flat Jx and 7x.

10:30(KJo): Agree that this is a fold..against an 18% 3bettor, KJo @ 17bb you don't get the equity. I'm going to go even nittier and say that even KJs against 18% 3bettor is a mr/fold, that 3% isn't enough. For KJs, this is very very close, but over 133 hands, 18% I think we have good enough reads to lay this down.

11:30(KJo): the one thing villain is doing nitty is not 3betting that much. 19%, and he's min-3betting a lot of that. He's very loose against jams, but he's not jamming that much, so he's more TP preflop (not postflop though), so I disagree that this is an insta-call of a jam with KJo against even this villain. He's not shown to be loose in this spot.

12:44 (K4o): why fold? He 1/2 pot donks as bluff a lot, that flop hits you more than him, either call and take it away later streets or ch/r him right there. He knows where fold button is. He also donks a lot. No reason at all to fold there.

13:37(85o): villain 1/2 pot donks flop as bluff a lot, will also 3barrel bluff alot, so I think we can call down here, especially since we have good str. draws to improve ourselves. If we didn't have draws, I think jamming his donk is fine.

17:41(8cTc): generally true that 6% limp means he might be trapping; however, he's doing this at endgame, a lot of guys who would never limp early & mid would limp weak lategame, esp. weaker players like this. However, I agree that overall checking is the best option.

19:19(A9o): hmm...A9o plays okay postflop, not great but not bad either. I'm going to assume readless Tx+ is not limping pre, except for T3 type stuff, and then unless they have TP they can be pushed off most pots. So I think we can 3x this basically. But worser Ax as said with less implied odds and playability 4x is a good choice. For me A9o is the border between 3x and 4x pre.

20:00(T5o): I prefer a bigger cbet, otherwise it's good.

21:35(27hh): don't think shoving turn is a good idea. FE is very low at this point, and we have a weak draw. I'd check back and evaluate on river.

23:02(Tc9c): yes, and prevents you from leading out river, such an obv. move, so leading turn produces many advantages.

24:00 (98o): I could see myself jamming that river. Clearly he's got air or small pair, he can't call a shove. By checking, you cannot win, small river lead doesn't get enough folds, shove works well in this instance.

25:07 (J4o): Against 67% OOP VPIP villain, 36% ch/r flop, 33% ch/r t, if I were you I'd open-fold J4o. It plays poorly postflop, and given villain tendencies, plays even worse. If you are able to maneuver better or play non-std. postflop then you can play it, but you are not that type of player. Against some of the other villains, you can mr this hand, not against this guy imo

25:48 (AQo): raise bigger on turn. Whatever he's calling 1/2 pot he will call a bit bigger. Also, you always 1/2 pot flop and turn when you have it, there are times when you need to change your bet-sizings, and here is a good place to do it. YOu lose value by not betting turn more.
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