If there is still free space for me, I would like to participate in this programm.
I'm playing in mid stakes (23$)

PLaying 5 and 10's regular and 6 and 11's turbo. If any space left, PM me :-)

In stead of annexing players to a program that has already started (and even finished for some), maybe it's a better idea to start a nex tree? (If palinca or another initiative taker, and some top-coache(s) would still want to invest all the time and effort of course.)

It this should happen thougd, I'd suggest that we can post all students / coaches that were "sitting out" during last program, and exclude them from the new tree(s).

It's very difficult to integrate new players at this point. There has been interest from at least 20 people after the trees were posted so I think there's room for new trees.

I don't mind putting in the time, but I'd definitely want some feedback on the way things went with the first experiment before doing so. I'm not sure how many people are sitting out, what % of participants are satisfied, etc. I think next time I'll set a time limit and ask for mandatory feedback (at least by PM). I don't want to police it too much as I think it's best to keep this as an honor-based community thing, but I guess we have to find a way to avoid excessive procrastination

Just started playing turbo 6s+11s, looking for someone a bit more experienced who wants to talk hands or do sweats. If there's a new tree opening, I'd like in

Hi everyone, I'm in the process of collecting feedback before lauching a new tree or two. I've sent PMs to most of you, but to those I've forgotten, I would appreciate you sending me the following info by PM :

Sorry for havin been so late but I finally sent it...

Rly interested in the seccond tree Palinca, I play 33's 55's

well noted, I want to finish getting feedback before considering anything. So far it has mostly been either really good or of the disappointing "my coach/student never answered my PMs" type, with a few "oh, the trees are out?".

I don't want to criticize too much as I myself am a pretty big procrastinator, but some of the participants seem not to understand the implications of them going missing....

Hopefully I'll get all the feeback in the next couple of days, rearrange the tree as I can so people who have honored their commitment to their students actually get coaching, and then I can think about creating an improved version of the tree!

allright, Im def in.

btw, wtf means "procrastinator"??

slacker

One of my favorite tee shirts reads :

"Procrastinators - leaders of tomorrow"

bump! have only received about 20% of the participants feedback so far...

So you can start a "quick responders and motivated members"-tree to start with

I suppose you start a new thread as soon as preparation for a new tree starts?

Yeah, I don't really know when that'll be though at this rythm

Don't think it will ever happen if you wait for 50% + responses. If you have 20% responses now I expect you will get maybe 25% - 30% in total.

Maybe there would be some merit in having a tree for those who have responded, assuming they all want to be involved again?

I'll give it about 3/4 days. I've sent PMs to about 95% of the participants. Being an optimist, I think at least 80% should answer But we'll see....

palinca, can you put me on the 2nd level, with someone beneath me and a $55+ ahead of me (not ship (t)it).

lmao youre hilarious
puss

ot; no feedback

*sigh*

I guess 1 hour of coaching is too much for many people, and 2 minutes of PMing too.

I want be higher in next tree if you put me there. I was 20-30$ right now, but I not learned anything from my coach, and you can easily put me on 50$.

In next tree I wanna be right below Primo.

edit: actually I have watched some of his vids, he isn't that good. Couldn't prolly beat 50's nowadays. I think he should be right below me.

tbh I didn't really feel like the person above me should of been my coach.. I would of much preferred if it was somebody like mers or RNC, esp since I know they rape STs

I'd have preferred you come to me with this comment earlier and by PM, but w/e. I have done my best to create trees where every player has a "coach" that is most adapted to his situation; someone who is playing the same format/sites, at a slightly superior level of skill. In a few spots, the pairings are of a slighty different nature - because the two players are closely matched in terms of skill, or maybe becaus the formats are not exactly the same (not many regs specialize in deep stacks for instance). Does that mean that the experience suddenly becomes a meaningless waste of time? No, the "coaching" session just takes up a different form.
It's obvious that some people are going to be somewhat disappointed in their pairings or the results of their coaching, everyone wants to get "mers or RNC", but I thought the "risk" was pretty clear in the concept, as well the fact that the success of an experience like this depends entirely on a good attitude by participants, accepting the pairings and doing their best to help each other out.

I think it's pretty disrespectful to just go completely missing because you don't like the tree setup. I mean, what am I supposed to tell your 2 students?
They've both given a lot of their to the guys assigned to them, and how can they not feel let down if you won't even answer their PMs?

You are certainly not the only one in your case, and I'm only posting this here because you brought the situation here instead of by PM, but seriously guys how can you not see that suddenly going missing screws up all my work on this? I've had PM conversations go :

anon : oh yeah, that thing, nah I had stuff come up, not doing it anymore

me : I understand that, but it poses a bit of a problem, since your students have put in 6 hours+ with the players that were assigned to them, I can take care of player X, but it would really help me out if you found 1 hour in your schedule to help out Y, he's been really looking forward to coaching by you

anon : nah, sorry bro can't do it


How am I not supposed to get tilted by this kind of ****? I've put in countless hours on this thing trying to keep everyone happy and some players don't even have the courtesy of PMing me or their students about not wanting to be a part of this.

I don't want to sound too bitter, I've had many cool feeback PMs about successful experiences with the trees, but some of the participants have put in more than 10 hours with their students, only to find that their coach is too busy to do 1 HH review, and too busy to answer PMs despite posting on 2+2 on a daily basis, and that just annoys me.

I agree with everything palinca said.

You should post names of people who lied and said they would help/participate and maybe nemo/sss or someone else sits em