Nah i agree with you mersenneary. I don't think it will impact games that much other than help the hardest working and more intelligent people increase their edge. I mean Spamz HH reviews, husng.com and the forum overall have gave every person the chance to crush this game yet we still have a very profitable game. A couple of years back there was almost nothing on this game and now look what's available! Yet theres still plenty of money on the table to be taken! If anything, it might get regs to become better and actually drive the 1% guys out by sitting them and taking a much higher edge vs them!

So i remain positive. Again though, the fact your doing this work for free says a lot about you as a person. It's much appreciated for sure.

Yeah, hes a gay hippie, thank you Mers!!!

I always thought that avatar was suspicious btw

there have been many moments in 2+2/training video history when i thought "great, now the games are ruined." but i still make money consistently, and i'm no poker genius. there was Fees' 6max free pdf, Spamz HHs, Mers ST videos, and so on. i cringed when i read that a free book is coming out in the low edge world of STs, especially since i play on regsville merge. but in the end these freebies always help me make more money, but maybe if i played higher stakes that wouldn't be the case, i dunno.

i'm not sure why it is that fish regs don't get a whole lot better with this stuff. i mean yeah games are always getting tougher but i seem to stay ahead of fish regs, and i'm no great theorist. maybe it's a lack of experience. having played 500 hundred gazillion billion games makes me more comfortable and less spazzy and more adaptive i think. so someone with 3,000 games under their belt with lots of free 2+2 theory crammed in their brain might get overloaded and misapply stuff in-game.

maybe another thing is fish regs don't do their own homework. there's a lot of stuff not in books that needs to be worked out mathematically. there's no time in-game to do them because of different ranges and stack sizes. i've done a good bit on my own, maybe enough that it keeps me one step ahead of fish regs.

also tilt issues are a biggie.

another is maybe i'm enjoying remarkably long-term good variance against them

I think it's because fish regs are the most stubborn of any and will have more fun quoting new terms they learn from this book than learning valuable lessons and applying superior thought process to their games.

I think I recognize like 90% of the chapters, hmm I wonder why :P. Well atleast I got to read them before most people . Now let us all pray that our opponents won't read it :O.

On a more serious note ofcourse it's great when you know something that other regs don't but this information would have came out sooner or later in one form or another.
I would have prefered later but whatever I guess we are forced to grow if we want to continue pwning.

Ty mers you are awesome for this, all you fish regs complaining need to shut up. I can't wait for the book to be released and because of the fact that fish/fish regs will just misapply the info presented in this book and widen the gap for us better players I have been going around to as much tables that I can telling everyone about it

stop doing what you are doing, seriously

As much as I'm going to be reading this along with everyone else most likely.

This makes the games even tougher than ever before!

Thanks though, looks very good.

I think it's fairly obvious the hardworking (and usually better players) will put more effort into studying and applying it. But with only so much edge possible, they stand to gain a lot less than they stand to lose. Since they are not playing that far from optimal in the first place a lot of study will only increase their edge over a fish reg a little bit, while even a small amount of study for the fishy reg will decrease the good reg's edge on the fish reg by much more.

I am REALLY looking forward to this merc! I've recently begun seriously learning and studying STHUSNGs and this will make a huge impact.

To all those talking about Spamz HH, is there a specific thread or you just talking about his general posts?

Thanks again!

haha
this will tilt a lot of people, u have potential

why are you releasing this for free/what do you gain out of this? props to you if you are genuinely interested in teaching others.

Thank you so much for this.

I wondered this as well (not complaining im sure it will be a good read).

Personally I think you could charge $200 (just made this number up), then donate the several $1000 to charity. The people who will get those most out of this book are not going to care about $200 and then there will be almost no complaints about the games getting harder.

I don't think something like this will have any significant impact on the games, its one thing to know the concepts but its a whole other one to apply them correctly.

I wonder if people really think they can evaluate things like this without even reading the book before.

PS: Lol at "not playing far from optimal".

@sharpie07

Look at the stickies, there's a link to around 11 hand histories threads from spamz. It's in the FAQ, Rules, Best of threads if I'm not wrong.

Although I am also convinced that the impact is not instantly
ie Skates in the past also made some great comments about overbetting and still we did not saw alot of overbetting HH examples posted;
I think you'll see instantly impact to some extent; especially in those spots where the free eBook will post Nash like tables.
For some, this is of course great if you are capable to create your own tables depending on the parameters where the tables are based upon and such to realize when opp blindly following those are making mistakes.

A thing, that surprises me is that everyone in this thread seem to think that they can get way more out of this book then another 'Reg' would do.
To be honest, I do not see why this would be true.
After all, everyone can study, memorize, implement this in their game.

The reading between lines, grabbing semi-hidden suggested ways to improve more, discovering own insights and ways to improve and actually doing this in the correct way is imo never easy.

Lets hope I succeed greatly in studying, memorizing, implementing this ASAP and in reading between lines, grabbing semi-hidden suggested ways, discovering own insights and ways to improve. And this all quicker then everybody of course.

Will do a q&a tonight but wanted to make sure I nipped this in the bud, as mentioned in the other thread I was paid and paid well for this, ChicagoRy thinks the best way to get a big influx of exposure for the site is to make it free. Also why I was so excited to make it something I could be proud of.

I didn't see you were paid for this but I'm sure it wasn't anything close to what you could have got if you sold it privately! I don't want to be an ass licker and boost your ego too much even though you might like it! but I'm sure you could have got more $ if that was your main incentive! So still props to you and even more to Chry for making this free for the community. I've lurked for years and Chry has always been there so the fact he hasn't forgot about us says a lot! Thanks dude!

Meh, hard to believe this was mainly for the money.

He just likes playing with the little creatures and watching them die.

Mers, I can't wait till late December, get the ebook out NOW so that I can read it to prepare for my hu4rollz with PHMERC

For sure he could have gotten more for this if he wanted to. Paying back, that's good for karma. Good stuff.

As for ChiRy, I've said it before, he's the husng glue. I'd vote for him if he ran for President.

Thanks a lot for your efforts mersenneary, looking forward to the release!

+1

You're joking, but fyi: None of the math here is particularly intense.

I'll do some "research" tonight to pick what I want to include.

This is a fantastic post, especially the first paragraph. It's a great quality to be able to have that self awareness and evidence awareness to conclude what you're concluding. Love it.

I would say about 50% of the material you haven't seen before (there is also material subtracted from the articles you saw). I hope FastTrackers enjoyed reading some of these articles in their infancy.

These don't really exist. I give a chart that shows a starting point example strategy for 12bb play, but it's highly exploitable (not that that's a bad thing against the general population). I give some readless 3bet jamming ranges 20bb deep but those will be far too tight against most regs. There's nothing in this ebook that just says "here are all my default ranges, now run and go copy me" (unlike FastTrack, where I answered those questions plus all the "and what ranges should I have against this opponent, and this type, and this type" all day every day). The ebook is more about situational awareness and how different hand types fit into those situations.

lol

Sounds like it could be true, but is it actually? Do you really think spamz's HH reviews helped the mediocre more than the talented and hardworking?

He's simply the greatest. SO many good stories, too. His well will be the best personal thread this forum has ever seen. He has dirt on pretty much everybody. My idea of dirt is "hey, livb is grossly exaggerating by saying he was all-NYC for high school basketball on his website, lol livb". ChicagoRy's idea of dirt is...well I guess we'll all find out someday.

Mersenneary,

I don't know wtf you're talking about but there are 3 classes in NYC basketball, class A, B and C. Each class, each year awards a "first-team" for 5 players for the city. My senior year I was first team all-NYC for Class C schools. Class C players are not eligible to make first team all-NYC for class B or C, it is the highest award a player can receive for regular season play. I was also the 2nd player in my school's history to school 1000 points.

I have plenty to say about your free "book" but suffice it to say that your comment about the "fantastic post" that had such "self-awareness" shows all that needs to be shown. That post plus your response is just pure unadulterated self-indulgent nonsense. Games have gotten 100x worse and basically they are dying. Online sites are in desperation mode as they can't replenish their player base nearly as quickly as they did. All Black Friday did was exacerbate an already huge unsustainable issue in online poker. By far the main reason for this is poker education. All this bs about "growing as a player" and "staying ahead of the curve" is laughable. You people need to get a clue.

hey livb! i remember you saying a while back that you planned to post play vids on your website. i still check it occasionally in the hope of finding some! any plans to come through? cheers

I don't think the main reason behind this is poker education I think its $. Never saw husng.com at my local soup kitchen Liv. Its obviously a strategic business decision for a great business man ChiRy to make more money for the website or he wouldn't have paid Mersenneary "very well" just to educate people further in husngs. The members get more content and the site makes more $ its a win win for everyone associated with the site. It helps people who use the site and make $ from the site and hurts people who can't learn much from the site/ don't use it.