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08-29-2018 , 05:30 AM

Vortigern

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hi guys,

Got a tricky one this time i think, cause it gives me a lot of headache.
Please help.

HYPER TURBO SNG
What kind of hands should i defend when opponent 3x's at 20-25bb deep?
And also 16-20bb deep?

thanx in advance!

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08-29-2018 , 05:45 AM

tittenmaus69

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3.5%

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08-29-2018 , 06:06 AM

Vortigern

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Originally Posted by tittenmaus69

3.5%

Which would be?
I find it quite difficult playing against 3x's..
At around 16bb i shove mostly on them with Kxs and Ax.

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08-29-2018 , 11:11 AM

padmore2107

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Originally Posted by tittenmaus69

3.5%

Could you elaborate on how you came to that conclusion ?

Thanks

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08-30-2018 , 10:27 AM

clapclap

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Originally Posted by padmore2107

Could you elaborate on how you came to that conclusion ?

Thanks

about 3.50 %

makes more sense now?

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08-30-2018 , 11:43 AM

padmore2107

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Originally Posted by clapclap

about 3.50 %

makes more sense now?

Not really. I want to know how he gets to 3.5%

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08-31-2018 , 11:08 PM

gamboneee

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hes ****ing with you

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09-01-2018 , 05:49 AM

Vortigern

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Problem with todays world:

"Nonsense" about the topic.
And all people "f@cking around".

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09-02-2018 , 02:31 AM

EPTchips

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Nah, he's right. My approach, vs general semi-loose 3xer would be sooted broadways + KQ, KJ. Comes together as ~3.50%.

Take it w/ a grain of salt, because I assume a 17% pfr 3xer. The 3xer you talk about may have different 3x pfr range.

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09-03-2018 , 07:31 AM

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Lawboyy

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It´s sad that this part of the forum has become so egoistic and competitive that no one is even trying to guide each other.

Around 38-50% depending on how good/comfortable you are at playing postflop would be a good baseline. We´re talking a lot of suited hands + offsuited connectors + top 20%.

Play around with ranges in equilab or similar to get to the point of % you think is best for you.

Good luck

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09-03-2018 , 03:39 PM

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EPTchips

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Originally Posted by Lawboyy

But why? Typical random 3xes premiums and plays them aggro or sticky, basically. I think you're bleeding chips with your loose call.

Any sample to confirm the opposite?

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09-04-2018 , 04:24 AM

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Lawboyy

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Originally Posted by EPTchips

But why? Typical random 3xes premiums and plays them aggro or sticky, basically. I think you're bleeding chips with your loose call.

Any sample to confirm the opposite?

Put 35s,95s and 65o against AKo and AJs in equilab. Compare with pot odds of calling a 3x. That´s why.

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09-04-2018 , 04:45 AM

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padmore2107

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Yea, this approach is the way to go.

My question is has anyone done a db hand visualiser review to ascertain what the population raises with 3x so we can put the right range into Equilab or CREV ? My own DB got corrupted recently but my guess is something like A9s+ ATo+ 66+ maybe KJs+ KQo.

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09-04-2018 , 04:59 PM

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Duncelanas

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Originally Posted by Lawboyy

Put 35s,95s and 65o against AKo and AJs in equilab. Compare with pot odds of calling a 3x. That´s why.

What?

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09-05-2018 , 04:34 PM

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Vortigern

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Originally Posted by Lawboyy

Thanks for this answer mate!
Appreciate that!

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09-05-2018 , 09:49 PM

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WorldzMine

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I'd also defend with a range of about 3.50 % at that stack size.

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