everyone is so angry nowadays. make love not reg wars

Lol, such a prick. gl sit/declining me when I'll be grinding 12hr/day soon and have unlimited lobbies reserved for you.

Yea, that's probably not happening either.

God so tilting reading this crap, sit declining is obviously part of the game if it bothers you. Dont sit.

Problem solved, can we please get back to more useless crap talk that has some interest to it and doesn't involve sit declining / BTC.

Of slight HUSNG interest in the HUSNG regs thread.... gogo coixdawg.

dont we have sit decline thread already? but im with ya Simenkon.
I dont like liars

lol...I don't say that you're stupid, just that you're unlucky at thinking

Oh dear , the irony steaming off this one. Deal with the situation without crying about it in the hopes other people will jump on the bandwagon and sit that person for you, if you cant handle it don't put yourself in that situation. I seem to be doing extremely well for someone unlucky at thinking (Y), I will throw it out there that you are most likely just stupid.

Curious what's your experience with using sharky in 30+ people queue. If you have a decent experience with that then fair enough to comment about sit-declining, everyone is free to have an opinion, but if not - insulting and commenting seems kinda....

I had sharky and grinded hypers all last year using it , I had alot of regs sit declining me but I just dealt with it, I didnt bitch and moan about it, I just sat the people who were sitting me and got on with my grind , there are so many people in here moaning when they get sat / declined in the hopes that others will jump in and sit them because of it that its ridiculous.

I dint insult anyone until he made that comment, I literally said deal with it or don't play the games.

It's always worth pointing out the ones that do imo. If someone points out somebody that does this at my stake I'm generally sitting them just because I like finding things like that to motivate me to grind hard. I don't think I've once posted about somebody sit declining me so it's not me defending myself here. Somebody posting potentially shortens the queue, makes it harder for people to behave like this and discourages future people from doing this (as well as providing some fun for people who want to sit guys like this to see how long they want to keep it up for, not listing this as one of the main reasons though since it's no real benefit to people as a whole). Seems people being mildly annoyed at a post on the subject is a small price to pay for the gains.

what is sit/declining? when someone sits you and then declines rematch? (a.k.a every fish)

yes but at regs doing that

basically they're stealing your lobbies if they do it constantly.

I am not bitching about it not one bit, just think its an unethical move, but if I am sitting them already then I am not complaining if I get more volume against them, annoying part is just that they dont accept, but instead run away and I have to look for them again or wait until they sit/decline me again.

In most cases sit-declining means they can't beat you in a normal match. (and by beat you I mean make you to stop sitting him, by prove that he's good enough to opensit)
It reeks weakness, and you do a favour to the reg community by posting the SN of a sit-decliner, coz he's gonna be a weak reg, who's don't deserve opensitting.

If others starts sitting him, it's good for you, because he'll need to move down (and can't hurt your profit/hr by sit-declining).

Good for the community+good for you = Win for everyone (except for the sit-decliner)

but the thing is
if the top 10 regs (at any stake) sit other regs that to them are weaker
they would have to move down to or only play vs the 10 best players at that stake

if the nr 6 best poker player in the world only play with the 5 players better than him he will have to quit that table to

if you think some1 doesnt deserve to sit at your stake fine play him yourself and make money playing him

if hes that bad why would you not want him to sit your stakes?
if he moves down you cant make that easy money
if hes that bad why would you want others to take his $ and let him move down?

but teaming up on 1 player is the same or even worse than sit/declining

why sit and decline

when you can

shyt and watch the poop decline

Because I make 0-2% roi vs him, and I make 4-5% roi vs recs. And after I sit him, he'll decline, and sit-decline a couple of time, so I'm gonna make ~0,1 bi in half an hour vs him (counting 10 games/ 1/2hr), and I'd make ~0,4-1bi vs randoms (the higher number is because they might accept).

I'd sit someone that caliber, because it beats waiting in the WL, but if it hurts my "implied" roi that much, it's not really good for me. But nontheless this person doesn't good enough, if I can beat him that much (it means that he's losing by -8-10% roi!), so he souldn't occupy our lobbies.

It's not teaming up on one player, it's teaming up on sit-decliners.

I'm not gonna post somebody's name, because he's weak. It's cool, I'm gonna sit him, and he's gonna decline, or accept. But if he's a d*ck in the chat to me, or sit-decline, or timing down every hand (all those regularly ofc, if doing 1 time, he might have a bad day, or tilting, or whatever), yeah, I'm gonna post here.

Not because of whining, but because the community needs some ethic code, and we need to see if it won't be broken, and retaliate if someone violate it.

Or what's gonna be the boundaries? Timing down every hand is cool? Skype froze internet attack thingy is OK? Other shady angleshooting stuffs are fine?

i understand that
not defending sit/declining at all

but look at it from the weaker players perspective
what would you do when all the better regs on your stake start sitting you

the weaker player sees he`s losing to other regs
sit declining is basicly his last try
what do you think he will do when he sees everybody still sits him? and even in the games he is sit/declining he is losing money
he will quit or move down anyway

its not really cool to bring 10 more guys in to make sure he moves down that should be up to the guys he is warring with

timing down is not allowed on stars
and Skype attacks and angle shooting is surely not in the same league as a losing player sit/declining some1

i think if some1 is doing that you should just continue what you where doing cause he is most likely on his way down

I strongly disagree. When somebody starts sitting me, I try to play my best to convince him, it is not worth it. If he keeps sitting my lobbies, I just open my pt4 and I am going through hands which we played against each other. When I review his games with my friends, I fight back and I start to sit his lobbies. And I obviously accept rematches, cause that is my intention, to play the guy, no to make him angry and look like a fish.

By sit/declining you just make things worse and you show him that you are weak. So I strongly disagree with this approach. Or I just get leveled?

i agree with you and that is what you should do
but imo people that sit/decline are not people who go over hands and improve so they can fight back 99% of these players are people who didnt study the game at all

i never sit /decline if i dont want to play with some1 i just decline
edit
And if some1 is annoying i wil do what Axif do, review game and add him to autoseat

A, decline if you don't wanna play him. Or play a couple of games, and decline after that. Maybe someone stole his lobby, and that's why he sit some random (you). Maybe he's just wanna see, if you're at least somewhat OK, or just a rec opensitting

B, If he's eager to play with you, then work on your game, bring your A game, be focused, analyse his game, and fight back.
If you're OK/good, and he sees, that you're willing to analyse, and work on your game, and you can be a tough opponent, who's got balls to war, eventually he's gonna leave you alone.


Groupsitting, and rally people to sit someone isn't really cool, but if the opponent act in a negative way (sit-decline, timedown, bad behaviour in chat, etc) he deserve it imo.

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I think if you want to consider sit declining as "part of the game" then you have to consider groups of people sitting that person as part of the game too.

I don't really get the point of that stuff though, if someone starts trash talking, slowrolling, or sit declining me, that only makes me want to sit them even more. On the other hand if a reg says nice things I'll be more inclined to stop sitting them even if it looks like they have significant leaks.

The claim that ghosting is acceptable when playing sit/decliners is wayyyyyyyyyyyy overboard and is explicitly against site ToS.

I wouldn't use the ToS (Besides doing this wouldn't even be against the spirit of the ToS anyway, they just can't put it in because it is impossible to police, within the context I propose I'm sure stars wouldn't think it's acceptable) to judge what is ethically acceptable and what isn't. When they decide on a certain behaviour they are setting the ethical code they will be treated by. So they technically aren't breaking the rules, that shouldn't really matter, they've set the standard for what is acceptable against them.

fwiw I don't do this nor do I try and get people to sit them or any of the other stuff I said. I enjoy hunting them down too much and seeing how long till they realise it isn't a good idea. If someone was to do that to a sit/decliner I would have no problem with it and just think they deserved it Hell I'd even encourage people to do it to them.